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  • #31
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

    It’s clear that right now fury is the best heavyweight in the planet
    No, in fact it casts serious doubt on Fury being the best, second best after Usyk is what I see. Third best is now Wilder then ?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
      Sweet carolines, you lot alright? You lads need anything? Phone call, fruit basket, crisis hotline anything of the kind? What a huge comment by the new king.
      saw the fight on YouTube of all places. That’s what dominance looks like. Joshua has won so many fights off being big and muscular and finally someone was able to turn that against him. All that muscle mass he gained after the Olympics hurt his career. His chin is severally flawed, to say he has a glass chin is an understatement. He was repeatedly hurt by an average punching cruiserweight albeit with master level skills. Both Fury and Wilder knock him out, im not even sure he gets passed Joyce at this point.
      big shout out to the young man who claimed Joshua will be “the greatest British fighter ever”…..
      How can you watch the Usyk fight and then conclude Wilder certainly beats Joshua? That’s a total reach

      Usyk put on an aggressive technical masterclass. You could take something away in regards to a Fury/Joshua fight, as Fury is a technical fighter, but even then it’s not apples to apples. Fury beats Joshua in every department

      Wilder has very little technical ability and relies on setting up a looping right hand to bail him out of fights. Joshua has a better boxing brain, but is obviously mentally vulnerable. It’s whoever lands first really, and how can you be so certain of who will?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by techliam View Post

        How can you watch the Usyk fight and then conclude Wilder certainly beats Joshua? That’s a total reach

        Usyk put on an aggressive technical masterclass. You could take something away in regards to a Fury/Joshua fight, as Fury is a technical fighter, but even then it’s not apples to apples. Fury beats Joshua in every department

        Wilder has very little technical ability and relies on setting up a looping right hand to bail him out of fights. Joshua has a better boxing brain, but is obviously mentally vulnerable. It’s whoever lands first really, and how can you be so certain of who will?
        Wilder swats your god out in less than 2 rounds
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        • #34
          It's too soon to anoint a king.

          Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

          It’s clear that right now fury is the best heavyweight in the planet
          The best on the planet will come down to the intangibles and style match-ups. Everyone thought AJ would walk through Ruiz and Wilder would stop Fury.

          Fast forward to today and I'm not sold on Fury beating Wilder again. I think that fight is up for grabs. Wilder has been putting in the work and he is super motivated and Fury may say a lot but he is showing nothing. He looked out of shape and mentally unmotivated. I'm picking Wilder to knock Fury out cold.

          Fury is a better boxer than AJ and I do expect Fury to beat Usyk. Both Fury and Usyk are fast, slick boxers but Fury is gigantic by comparison and he IS dirty enough to rough Usyk up and wear him down.

          I expect AJ fight to fight Fury much tougher than Usyk can because AJ will get get close to Fury and Fury isn't strong enough to rough Joshua up the way he did Wilder and the way he will Usyk.

          Usyk vs Wilder match-up does not favor Wilder, Usyk is about the same size and he is very hard to catch. On top of that Usyk is always there to fight all 12 rounds on a high level.



          All of this may be theoretical but until they fight one another nobody is best on the planet. What is not theoretical is that they all have claimed to be king right before they got beat-up.

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          • #35
            The evidence doesn't support your argument. Re-watch Wilder's fights again. Usyk is a nightmare match-up for Wilder and should be avoided at all costs. (see my other post)

            Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

            Wilder swats your god out in less than 2 rounds
            Wilder is always getting beat until his opponent slows down when he catches them. Usyk is the same size as Wilder, fights harder in the 12th than Otiz in the 1st and he is far, far more skills than anyone Wilder has ever seen or spared with.

            Usyk is no God but he is built to exploit Wilder's every flaw .
            Last edited by factsarenice; 09-27-2021, 01:46 PM. Reason: Spelling
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            • #36
              Ah come on, fury is the best heavyweight in the world right now. But that could change. Wilder is going to be very dangerous and fury is over confident.

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              • #37
                If Wilder beats Fury, he will go back to coddling that WBC belt and not fighting anyone who is a threat again for a long while. Forget about him ever fighting Usyk (if Usyk beats Joshua again in the rematch). Usyk is all wrong for Wilder, he will avoid that fight at all costs. If Fury beats Wilder, we may have a chance of seeing him against Usyk, but as Roy Jones said, that maybe a snooze fest, would be like a chess match …however, it is a chess match I wouldn’t mind watching if it means finally having an Undisputed champ. I would favor Usyk against any of them to be honest.

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                • #38
                  Breidis was the hardest, i remember?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pigeons View Post

                    I thought Usyk was lucky to walk away with the decision in the Briedis fight, especially in Latvia. He looked genuinely relieved when the decision was read.
                    I agree, that was a razor thin fight, and really really high quality from both guys.

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                    • #40
                      I hope that, as champion, usyk can force the rematch to Ukraine.

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