Who is the better British fighter? Frank Bruno or Anthony Joshua?

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  • Tim Witherspoon
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    #21
    As someone who fought Bruno I can tell you he is a hard puncher and can take a punch!. Joshua is someone I would love to work with I can see the holes in his defense. He needs work but I can get him on track to major wins

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    • hugh grant
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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      You have to look at the strength of era’s though. Bruno would easily beat Charles Martin for example.
      this debate im not sure if h2h or who is greater? Surely Josh is greater he's he nearly undisputed.
      Bruno succumbed x2 to tyson, to lennox, witherspoon, boncrusher hanging on for dear life with mcall.
      I think Josh has much better chance of being higher ATG
      Last edited by hugh grant; 10-04-2021, 07:59 AM.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        this debate im not sure if h2h or who is greater? Surely Josh is greater he's he nearly undisputed.
        Bruno succumbed x2 to tyson, to lennox, witherspoon, boncrusher hanging on for dear life with mcall.
        I think Josh has much better chance of being higher ATG
        I think they all potentially beat Joshua though, Lennox and Mike destroy him for example. As I said Bruno definitely becomes champion in this era but I don’t think Joshua necessarily becomes champion in Bruno’s era. AJ has definitely achieved more than Bruno but in a considerably weaker era, so it depends what you value more. I’m leaning towards Bruno in this one.
        Last edited by RJJ-94-02=GOAT; 10-04-2021, 09:20 AM.

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        • Tatabanya
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          #24
          Bruno came very close to beating Lennox Lewis, who many consider an ATG. And he rocked Tyson badly in the latter's first post-Spinks fight.

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          • Inter Beer
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            #25
            I have long said AJ is a modern day version of Big Frank. Similar styles but I actually think Frank had a better jab and more one punch power. He was also a bit more aggressive, often boxed on the front foot (Tyson fights aside). I watched him stick it to Lennox for 6 rounds in Cardiff before one big left hook turned the bout on its head.
            I would say it is 55/45 in favour of Bruno.
            In terms of results and record, both of them pretty close too. Bruno was well on course to beat Spoon, one punch changed the fight as happens at heavyweight. He never looked like beating Tyson. He gave Lewis a good scrap but was always a massive underdog in that one and inevitably got tagged. No disgrace there.
            AJ was poor v Ruiz 1and totally outclassed by Usyk but seems a mental thing now, he maybe has lost confidence in his own chin and could be champ again if he sorts out his head and tactics in the rematch. His biggest weakness is his total lack of head movement. Quick handed opponents can hit him to readily.
            Let's wait until his career is finished but for now Frank has the edge.

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            • hugh grant
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              #26
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              I think they all potentially beat Joshua though, Lennox and Mike destroy him for example. As I said Bruno definitely becomes champion in this era but I don’t think Joshua necessarily becomes champion in Bruno’s era. AJ has definitely achieved more than Bruno but in a considerably weaker era, so it depends what you value more. I’m leaning towards Bruno in this one.
              Yes, but then Bruno not really beat anyone other than mcall. Hard to make case for Bruno on basis, everyone who beat Bruno would beat josh, and Bruno would beat everyone on Josh resume.? So it's along the lines of Bruno could and woulda but didnt. Similar to floyd could have beat everyone on Pac S resume, could have beat nel o and Pac without cw, and IV if he wanted to and be 8 division champ?
              I think your building a case for Bruno beats Josh h2h
              Last edited by hugh grant; 10-04-2021, 09:40 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Tim Witherspoon
                As someone who fought Bruno I can tell you he is a hard puncher and can take a punch!. Joshua is someone I would love to work with I can see the holes in his defense. He needs work but I can get him on track to major wins
                Are you the actual Tim Witherspoon?

                We have a real life 2X heavyweight champion on the forum?

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                • Tim Witherspoon
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  Are you the actual Tim Witherspoon?

                  We have a real life 2X heavyweight champion on the forum?
                  Yes sir I am the real Tim Witherspoon 2X Heavyweight Champion of the world. Getting deeper into the whole online world just started a Youtube channel. My first video is entitled This is me the real Tim Witherspoon 2x Heavy Weight Champion of the World - YouTube
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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Tim Witherspoon
                    Look forward to watching your vdeos Tim, good to have you on board. Hope you don't mind if I post that video up for ya...



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                    • Tim Witherspoon
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba

                      Look forward to watching your vdeos Tim, good to have you on board. Hope you don't mind if I post that video up for ya...



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                      Thank you my friend!!!! Yes post my videos anywhere you want!

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