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  • nino brown21
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    #41
    Anthony The Joke Joshua

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    • archiemoore1
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      #42
      AJ is kind and nice and he probably likes to hold doors open for old ladies and that's great. But in the ring, u have to be a nasty mofo. He sits back and is too cerebral, waiting for something to happen. With his size and strength he should make something happen, make ppl react to him, be first and last. he needs to work on feinting more and develop a stick that can turn into a hook, uppercut or, 45 in an instant. Too much thinking and not enough imposing

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        #43
        I blame the corner - AJ showed up to box, which was beyond ******. How the F can you expect to outbox Usyk? I thought Gassiev fight was the blueprint on how the AJ - Usyk fight was gonna go, but I was mistaken. Usyk beat AJ up worse than he beat up Gassiev!

        If AJ and his corner are deluded enough to think they can outbox Usyk in the rematch, we will get a KO by Usyk.

        I'd love to see Usyk - Wilder - I think Usyk would absolutely annihilate Wilder. One can dream...

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          #44
          Originally posted by NachoMan

          Whether he’s delusional or not I don’t think he’s fake. The guy clearly has a lot of mental strength to be able to almost immediately put aside negativity and move forward. He has an extraordinarily positive mindset , That is a rare strength and a gift.
          People envy guys like AJ and Wilder...were all supposed to be good sheep and accept the limits imposed on us by our peers and governments. Shut up, go to work, spend it recreating the way we tell you to biatches! No no, don't die yet... put that tube down your throat so we can tax you a few more years!

          people who succeed do not care what haters on a bulletin Board think, and when you tell them how it is done, they hold their hand up make a circle (indicating all this) with a face full of derision and pity for you... and ask you "this is what one should aspire to?"

          Real White supremacy is not "white" so much... But it is the ultimate slave mentality. It says, "I hate anyone who dares to do it their own way, not accept defeat easily, because I do what I am told." AJ sells fights. He has the right to fight as long as he creates a market for those fights, including as a role model if that is what he wants to do. Let him try to figure things out with Usyk. Maybe he will suprise us.

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            #45
            Originally posted by observer
            If AJ and his corner are deluded enough to think they can outbox Usyk in the rematch, we will get a KO by Usyk.
            Well we almost saw that last night - AJ was seconds away from being TKOed. He had his arms down, sat on the ropes and was more or less defenseless. The bell saved him, but I would not have been surprised if the ref had waved it off - in fact I thought for one moment that he had actually waved it off, because there were still a couple of seconds to go according to the timer.

            Stellar performance by Usyk. And the fact that, instead of talking trash and challenging other fighters in the post-fight interview, he talked about his wife and family, makes him a likeable guy as well.

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              #46
              Originally posted by archiemoore1
              AJ is kind and nice and he probably likes to hold doors open for old ladies and that's great. But in the ring, u have to be a nasty mofo. He sits back and is too cerebral, waiting for something to happen. With his size and strength he should make something happen, make ppl react to him, be first and last. he needs to work on feinting more and develop a stick that can turn into a hook, uppercut or, 45 in an instant. Too much thinking and not enough imposing
              Theres a reason why you have great heavyweights... Fighters like Liston, Foreman, Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey, Tyson... guys who found a way to be imposing throughout their careers. All the while across the ring was another guy who had a blueprint, the skills, the will and the mandate to stop this imposition. Imposing oneself is a two way street. Its been a long hard slog to try to get people to understand that one does not just "impose" oneself... It takes greatness and certain traits to do so.

              AJ has to decide who he is as a fighter. It is what I do not like about him as a fighter... he has no identity. You cannot get Ko;ed by a guy then decide to use a different style to beat him. If AJ is a boxer, then he needs to learn to box and stay away from Usyk for now. If he is a puncher, then he needs to work on cutting the ring, attacking at all ranges, and finding ways to be a solid finisher.

              AJ lives in too many worlds as a fighter, jack of all trades master of none. Usyk knows what he does to win fights, Wilder knows what he does to win fights...etc. What does AJ do? its great he could box Ruiz but that ruined him more than losing the first fight. He needed to go in there and win with his big punch.

              Lewis was a great fighter. He become a great puncher who could box to find a way to land his big shots... famously when he fought Holly the first time, Holly was asked about the obvious criminal decision and said "Lewis had me bad many times, its his own fault...he should have knocked me out." Wise words... lewis with all his gifts still had a lot to learn after that fight. Only in the last part of his career did Lewis really finish fights. The Vitalie fight was a masterpiece. He went after Vitalie and that cut... the lat round before the fight was stopped, he really went after Vitalie making the fight stoppage necessary. IMO Lewis became great that night and had nothing to prove anymore. AJ needs to study Lewis on that accord.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                Aj has exactly the right mentality when he loses. He wants to get better. Doesn't blame, flu, fake gloves, heavy costume or whatever. That's why I like him and he fights top-10 opponents almost every fight. Fury and Wilder make a lot of noise to distract from the fact that they barely fight anyone in the top-10.

                I think AJ needs to come in like a proper HW for the rematch. ****** to lose weight, lose power as a result and try to outbox a genius boxer like Usyk. He needed to use his size and weight to steamroller him. He basically took away all his natural advantages. Chisora did a better job in many ways by acting like a genuine HW. If AJ thinks he can learn to outbox Usyk he has no chance.

                Do people think Usyk will show up for rematch? He said he wants to spend time with his family. Kind of implies he doesn't intend to be at HW for long.
                I'm guessing if he comes back, that will be the logical Plan B, since it wasn't Plan A.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  People envy guys like AJ and Wilder...were all supposed to be good sheep and accept the limits imposed on us by our peers and governments. Shut up, go to work, spend it recreating the way we tell you to biatches! No no, don't die yet... put that tube down your throat so we can tax you a few more years!

                  people who succeed do not care what haters on a bulletin Board think, and when you tell them how it is done, they hold their hand up make a circle (indicating all this) with a face full of derision and pity for you... and ask you "this is what one should aspire to?"

                  Real White supremacy is not "white" so much... But it is the ultimate slave mentality. It says, "I hate anyone who dares to do it their own way, not accept defeat easily, because I do what I am told." AJ sells fights. He has the right to fight as long as he creates a market for those fights, including as a role model if that is what he wants to do. Let him try to figure things out with Usyk. Maybe he will suprise us.
                  Maybe I don't have on my racism-tinted glasses, but I didn't exactly see the "white supremacy" in his criticism. It's because AJ is black? So that means criticism of him is racism? Like people who didn't like *****?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.

                    Well Wilder would of had his chance to do it if he wasn't so chicken, chicken.
                    Joshua turned down 50 million, he had his chance but Joshua's people know about his glass chin. He probably gets hurt in sparring all the time.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      Theres a reason why you have great heavyweights... Fighters like Liston, Foreman, Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey, Tyson... guys who found a way to be imposing throughout their careers. All the while across the ring was another guy who had a blueprint, the skills, the will and the mandate to stop this imposition. Imposing oneself is a two way street. Its been a long hard slog to try to get people to understand that one does not just "impose" oneself... It takes greatness and certain traits to do so.

                      AJ has to decide who he is as a fighter. It is what I do not like about him as a fighter... he has no identity. You cannot get Ko;ed by a guy then decide to use a different style to beat him. If AJ is a boxer, then he needs to learn to box and stay away from Usyk for now. If he is a puncher, then he needs to work on cutting the ring, attacking at all ranges, and finding ways to be a solid finisher.

                      AJ lives in too many worlds as a fighter, jack of all trades master of none. Usyk knows what he does to win fights, Wilder knows what he does to win fights...etc. What does AJ do? its great he could box Ruiz but that ruined him more than losing the first fight. He needed to go in there and win with his big punch.

                      Lewis was a great fighter. He become a great puncher who could box to find a way to land his big shots... famously when he fought Holly the first time, Holly was asked about the obvious criminal decision and said "Lewis had me bad many times, its his own fault...he should have knocked me out." Wise words... lewis with all his gifts still had a lot to learn after that fight. Only in the last part of his career did Lewis really finish fights. The Vitalie fight was a masterpiece. He went after Vitalie and that cut... the lat round before the fight was stopped, he really went after Vitalie making the fight stoppage necessary. IMO Lewis became great that night and had nothing to prove anymore. AJ needs to study Lewis on that accord.
                      I agreed with most, and I like Lewis overall. But it wasn't clean how he kept rubbing his head against that cut in the clinch. That's what I remember without watching it again. So using that fight, and getting the stoppage due to cut, doesn't work for me.

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