AJ legacy compared to Wlad's

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  • famicommander
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    #11
    Wlad vs world champions
    W vs Chris Byrd UD 12
    W vs Frans Botha TKO 8* (Botha won the IBF heavyweight title in the ring then failed a drug test, so discount if you choose)
    W vs Ray Mercer TKO 6* (WBO champion before the title was fully recognized)
    L vs Corrie Sanders TKO 2* (WBO champion before the title was fully recognized)
    L vs Lamon Brewster TKO 5* (WBO champion before the title was fully recognized)
    W vs Samuel Peter UD 12
    W vs Chris Byrd TKO 7
    W vs Lamon Brewster TKO 6* (WBO champion before the title was fully recognized)
    W vs Sultan Ibragimov UD 12
    W vs Hasim Rahman TKO 7
    W vs Ruslan Chagaev RTD 9
    W vs Samuel Peter KO 10
    W vs David Haye UD 12
    L vs Tyson Fury UD 12
    L vs Anthony Joshua TKO 11

    Anthony Joshua vs world champions:
    W vs Charles Martin KO 2
    W vs Wlamidir Klitschko TKO 11
    W vs Joseph Parker UD 12
    L vs Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7
    W vs Andy Ruiz Jr UD 12
    L vs Oleksandr Usyk UD 12

    This isn't even remotely close. Wlad was the lineal champ, he had way better opposition, he had way longer reigns. Joshua beat a retired ghost version of Wlad and still almost lost.

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    • *Makaveli*
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      #12
      Wlad hobbled upto the ring on his zimmer frame after not fighting in years and damn near cleaned out prime AJ.
      ​​​​​​Wlads legacy is ruling the division for a decade. AJ doesn't even have a legacy

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      • ShaneMosleySr
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        #13
        Jesus the British are so insane.

        Everything British is not the best.

        I can’t wait for you to explain to me how David Haye is better than Chris Byrd. I can’t wait for this one.

        I also can’t wait for you to explain to me how Joshua has fought better competition than David Haye, Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman, Samuel Peter, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Jameel McCline, Ray Mercer and Frans Botha.

        Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
        I actually don't rate Wlad very highly. Hasn't got a single special win on his record except maybe David Haye. I'm not sure if Joshua is better, but his era has way better competition.

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        • KingGilgamesh
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          #14
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          Jesus the British are so insane.

          Everything British is not the best.

          I can’t wait for you to explain to me how David Haye is better than Chris Byrd. I can’t wait for this one.

          I also can’t wait for you to explain to me how Joshua has fought better competition than David Haye, Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman, Samuel Peter, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Jameel McCline, Ray Mercer and Frans Botha.


          Actually the bolded is a statement I strongly support. But I still don't rate Wlad that highly. Im not even super crazy about Haye either. But his achievements at both cruiserweight and heavyweight give him the edge for me over guys like Peter and Byrd. Tbf I actually forgot Mercer, Botha and Rahman.

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          • TMLT87
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            #15
            Obviously nowhere near but Wlad is the most accomplished HW of the 21st century and retired when he was 10 years older than AJ is now. For a 31 year old Joshua was doing well, whether he can come back from this or not we will have to see, I dont think he can beat Usyk though.

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            • Toffee
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              #16
              Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
              I actually don't rate Wlad very highly. Hasn't got a single special win on his record except maybe David Haye. I'm not sure if Joshua is better, but his era has way better competition.
              When you're a dominant champion it's hard to have a special win.

              Just look at the build up to the Joshua v Usyk fight. Plums on here were adamant Usyk had no job being in the ring with him.

              If Joshua beat him it wouldn't have been considered a special win.

              That's the tough bit about being champion. And it's why Fury has more than one 'special win' and no losses.

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                Josh fans may say there is nothing Wlad can do to be greater as Josh has that win over Wlad like another fanbase does unashamedly.?

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #18
                  Chris Byrd beat Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield and David Tia.

                  Haye is not more accomplished than him.

                  Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                  Actually the bolded is a statement I strongly support. But I still don't rate Wlad that highly. Im not even super crazy about Haye either. But his achievements at both cruiserweight and heavyweight give him the edge for me over guys like Peter and Byrd. Tbf I actually forgot Mercer, Botha and Rahman.

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