Usyk's chin.

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  • elfag
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    #31
    Originally posted by champion4ever

    You are absolutely right! I believe that first Andy Ruiz fight must've really ruined AJ. Now he is more reluctant in letting his hands go for fear of either getting clipped because of his weak chin or punching himself out due to his poor stamina. Joshua had plenty of opportunities of putting his foot on the gas pedal in the fight as the naturally stronger and bigger puncher of the two but simply just refused to do so.

    AJ was stunned a few times himself so that is part of why he was afraid of throwing too much.

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    • Scopedog
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      #32
      He never had to eat much that Joshua really had the chance to put his weight behind, like the kind of stuff that Pulev got hit with, for instance. Of course, that's less a knock on the strength of Usyk's chin and more of yet another positive indictment of the incredible boxing skills he put on display. The best chin is the one that doesn't get tagged in the first place.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Toffee
        Not just about having some superhuman ability to brush off power shots.

        He's never still for long enough to take one flush.
        He's fu*cking annoying thats what he is , he should stay still and let my boy tap him in the jaw. I know how Pacquiao fans feel when their emperor said " HE SHOULD STAY STILL" **** USYK is good. i cant see how AJ wins the rematch either

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        • Zelda
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          #34
          He did not take many hard shots from Joshua. And when he got hit by Chisora, he did not enjoy one bit of it. Usyk's chin is yet to be tested at HW. Sure he is no glass chin but we can't as yet say whether he has an iron chin or not.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Damn Wicked

            WTF? Hahaha.

            He was ready to go chop down AJ more and more. Every time Usyk was hit with something he responded with a counter and more offence. I’m sure he felt AJ’s power but at no time was he in trouble. The opposite could be said of AJ though. He was buzzed and shaken a few times.
            I never said he was in any type of trouble. All I said is that he felt AJ’s power and was able to maneuver around it. Actually, it was Usyk who buckled the knees of Joshua several times. Win lose or draw I would like to see AJ retire. He is just not the same fighter he was before the first Andy Ruiz fight. That fight permanently ruined him.
            Last edited by champion4ever; 09-26-2021, 04:57 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by elfag


              AJ was stunned a few times himself so that is part of why he was afraid of throwing too much.
              Yeah. That’s very true. I agree. I still feel he would have been better off throwing combination punches as opposed to simply out boxing Usyk with his jab. AJ needed to fight at a much faster pace
              Last edited by champion4ever; 09-26-2021, 05:02 AM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Toffee
                Not just about having some superhuman ability to brush off power shots.

                He's never still for long enough to take one flush.
                That's what it's all about, never letting anything land completely flush and by controlling and corralling the opponents offensive options rarely being in a position where you can't anticipate what's gonna come at you... Like they say it's the ones you don't see coming.

                I ain't much of a believer in Chins TBH, not to say there ain't some variability but for me it's much more to do with ring awareness and defensive responsibility.

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                • Damn Wicked
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  I never said he was in any type of trouble. All I said is that he felt AJ’s power and was able to maneuver around it. Actually, it was Usyk who buckled the knees of Joshua several times. Win lose or draw I would like to see AJ retire. He is just not the same fighter he was before the first Andy Ruiz fight. That fight permanently ruined him.
                  Sorry, my mistake. I thought you were saying that AJ had Usyk hurt. Yes, I believe Usyk could feel the power of AJ and that’s what kept him boxing strategically and intelligently. He knew there was still danger even though he was in charge throughout most of the fight.

                  I don’t think AJ should retire. Even though he lost I believe he showed some pretty smart adjustments from previous fights. I think he can still compete with the other guys at the very top of the division. He still has time to improve. There aren’t any other heavyweights who have the skill and slick movements of Usyk. AJ can be at the top of the heap again if he plays his cards right and improves a bit. Even if he doesn’t improve he will still be tough to beat.

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                    #39
                    You don’t stand and have your wits about you after some of those A.J shots . Usyks reaction to any power shot he’s been hit with seldom still negates his next counter move,he didn’t miss a beat against A.J though he was rarely hit solid the entire time,his chin is very proven .

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by diplo

                      Come on now, Usyk was never ready to go. Legs never stiffened, eyes never rolled back. AJ's signature is a right uppercut and I don't know Usyk even let him throw one all night. Hard to judge how good someone's chin is who is disciplined enough not to stand and ****, and rolls so well with punches he does take.



                      this, AJ was hurt more and hurt more often than usyk was. at most usyk could feel some of the shots but he wasnt as stunned as AJ was

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