Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Joe Joyce is a Liar, He Never Made an Offer

[dan_cov]

You can say whatever at the end of the day he's fought Wilder twice and a peak Jennings.

Joyce hasn't fought anybody but Ortiz's leftovers that damn near knocked his ass out and have him fits despite being old and washed up.

Yet Ortiz fights garbage, ok then.

[Sid-Knee]

That was it, it was proposed in 2019 and Abel/Joyce turned it down.

They wasn't new and were working together for multiple fights he joined Big Bear in July 2018.
I get fed up of these duckers in boxing that get given the benefit of the doubt then suddenly find their boll0cks when the opponent they have previously been ducking has one foot in the grave and everyone laps it up.
Nobody said anything when Joyce and his team ducked Ortiz & there is proof that happened, that is from the horses mouth.
This is just one guy saying something and the other denying it at this stage.

Even if Ortiz did duck the fight, Joyce is pathetic for avoiding him and waiting until he is an inactive, practically semi-retired 42yr old.

How many fights had Joyce had at the time? You think fighters should get in with little experience? Isn't that as bad as you claim "Waiting for them to age" even though he isn't doing any such thing? Joyce moved his career at the pace it should have been going. Ortiz on the other hand, did not. Joyce has a better resume for a reason. How many years ago is it when Ortiz beat anyone semi credible? Jennings right? But how long ago was that?

Ortiz and his team are pathetic. Why you defend this fraud i don't know. Maybe you have some Cuban in the family or something.

[Sid-Knee]

Another UK heavyweight, lying about wanting to fight an American. Who knew...

Ortiz is Cuban.

We all know were the cowards and pathological liars come from. It sure isn't us, regardless of your insecure smear campaigns. You obsess over us for a reason. We just acknowledge the extremism. Then we correct it.

[Sid-Knee]

Ortiz has now turned down Joshua, Joyce, and Wallin. Most avoided heavyweight doe. Guy is living off one decent KO of Bryant Jennings.

Don't forget Whyte too.

[dan_cov]

Don't get me wrong Ortiz's resume sucks but don't sit defending some guy with a resume that is ten times worse and only trying to fight him now he is approaching 43.

Just like I expected and called for Ortiz to step it up you do the same. Like tell me why is he trying to fight a retired 43yr old who hasn't fought let alone looked good in years? Call for Joyce to fight the guys he should be! Fight AJ vs Usyk winner, Fury vs Wilder winner, Yoka, etc etc
Stop calling out old men.

Ortiz is so old in a few years he'll probably be coming out of retirement for a Youtuber to knock out lol

[Sid-Knee]

He had around 10 pro fights and an insane amateur pedigree and experience in WSB. How many more fights does one need? Need more fights no you just want to make sure the ****ers in a retirement home before you find your balls.

He practically is retired he's nearing 43 and had 1 fight/fought 1 round in about 2 maybe 3 years. Who gives a **** about this fight at the back end of 2021 really?

Why is he trying to fight guys at this stage of his career, fights btw you lot were claiming was 50 odd a good 7-8 years back? What am I supposed to be impressed by calling out an oap with a heart condition?

How old was Jennings, Stiverne, Takam? Now Ortiz. Does this big oaf actually want to fight anyone that isn't some geriatric?

He's had about 8 fights at the time. But even if it was 10 just for arguments sake, you think that is the amount of fights you have before taking on contenders? Good job you're not a manager or promoter. You'd be getting everyone beat before they had a chance to develop.

Joyce turned to boxing really late. He does not have an insane amateur career. Were did you hear that?

Asking for a couple more fights was waiting for him to be in a retirement home? So Joyce should jump to the tune of Ortiz and benefit him to the detriment of Joyce? Maybe those who have their pro debut should fight the champ because he wants it?

Joyce is just looking for an opponent. Ortiz was one of them. But before, it was "Why aren't they fighting Ortiz" even though many wanted to. It was Ortiz and his team that were messing about all the time. But now it's "Leave him alone, he's a gentle man and not here to fight". Make up your minds will you.

Joyce has still only had 13 fights. Is that too experienced for you? Haha. Ortiz seems about right for Joyce. But not according to you. So, who should Ortiz fight then?

Who should Joyce fight? And who would take it? He's already beaten Dubois.

[DaNeutral.]

King Kong needs to have another word with his management cuz they have already proven to be big fat king liars when it comes to them telling their fighter who is offering to fight him.

[Sid-Knee]

The real question is why do you think Joyce is somebody when he wants to waste his career fighting guys like this?

I think Joyce is a contender whose had just 13 fights, not 40 odd. He's ready for the top contenders and looking to see if he can climb all the way to the top. Why would you think a 13 fight pro is a nobody? For 13 fights, he's on the money. Hell, he practically has a better resume than Wilder.

[Sid-Knee]

You can say whatever at the end of the day he's fought Wilder twice and a peak Jennings.

Joyce hasn't fought anybody but Ortiz's leftovers that damn near knocked his ass out and have him fits despite being old and washed up.

Yet Ortiz fights garbage, ok then.

You think Jennings nearly knocked Joyce out? You have got to be trolling.

Are you a Brit? You sound very much like a Wilder fan. I just need to make sure.

[Rodtang]

Ortiz hasn't even fought this year, so he shouldn't be knocking back a big fight. Probably after the Hammer rematch and Hughie beat him to it.