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  • #61
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Why didn't Joyce want that smoke when it was presented to them 2 &1/2 yrs ago?
    I like how everyone forgets and is basically praising Joyce going on like he's this boogeyman now he feels Ortiz is there for the taking.

    Nobody said **** when Joyce and his team turned it down and that came out his own trainers mouth not just what this is currently, hearsay.
    I didn’t realise Ortiz offered him the fight. To be fair to Joyce though, he was at a much earlier stage of development in his career. He’s much more at Ortiz’s level as a contender now.

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    • #62
      Back when hearn offered ortiz team the fight, it seemed like his team didnt relate the offers to ortiz instead were negotiating in there own best interests tryng to get as much money out of the pot without actually informing Ortiz, which ultimately caused Ortiz to miss out on what seems like was his one and only real shot at a fight with Joshua.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
        King Kong needs to have another word with his management cuz they have already proven to be big fat king liars when it comes to them telling their fighter who is offering to fight him.
        This is more than likely the cause of the dispute. Ortiz pretty much does as he's told, when he's told, and doesn't get told a lot of what goes on with his management.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by tokon View Post

          This is more than likely the cause of the dispute. Ortiz pretty much does as he's told, when he's told, and doesn't get told a lot of what goes on with his management.
          Well Joyce now knows Oldtiz is willing. Let's see what Joyce does.

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          • #65
            he knows full well Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz has never turned down a fight in his life
            Well we all know that's not true

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

              Well Joyce now knows Oldtiz is willing. Let's see what Joyce does.
              Yes, it's a good fight for both guys.
              thanks.

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              • #67
                There’s a common denominator in all these Ortiz fights that never happen, yet somehow people refuse to believe he’s the actual problem.

                It’s bizarre how many people just blindly believe anything he and his team say.

                Is it really because he’s Wilders marquee win.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                  Well Joyce now knows Oldtiz is willing. Let's see what Joyce does.

                  He also said he would be ready if anything happened to Miller.

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                  • #69
                    Never turned down a fight? What about the offer to step in for Miller to fight Joshua?

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                    • #70
                      Whom ever you believe, fine. Have Joyce publish the written offer to prove he's right? Regardless, hearsay is worthless. We all ,know Ortiz is willing, so the ball is in Joyce's court. If he shys away, we'll know he was just name dropping. Line em up!

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