Comments Thread For: Usyk: Size Don't Matter, Haye Was Three Times Smaller Than Valuev

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Szef
    Face of Boxing
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2012
    • 15010
    • 2,485
    • 1,553
    • 253,303

    #11
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    We know.
    Thurman looks like a complete rtard when he tries to indimate his opponent with his 'big crazy scary' eyes
    Last edited by Szef; 09-24-2021, 02:06 AM.

    Comment

    • Frankie Coffeecake
      Face like a coffeecake
      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
      • Sep 2021
      • 231
      • 111
      • 43
      • 0

      #12
      That's the spirit Usyk

      Comment

      • OnlytheTruth
        Roadman94's Daddy
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Apr 2019
        • 1330
        • 177
        • 91
        • 15,775

        #13
        Originally posted by 1hourRun
        People will hold onto this for years. Even if he becomes the Undisputed, knocks Fury out in 1st round, knocks Wilder out in the 1st round, cures Cancer, ends world poverty..

        Haters gon Hate.

        Comment

        • 1hourRun
          SQUAD-UP!
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Dec 2010
          • 20526
          • 2,789
          • 2,336
          • 140,312

          #14
          Originally posted by Szef

          Thurman looks like a complete rtard when he tries to indimate his opponent with his 'big crazy scary' eyes


          Like Crazy-Eyes told Mr. Deeds, '' I don't like him. ''

          Comment

          • Noelanthony
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Aug 2016
            • 8896
            • 948
            • 586
            • 105,165

            #15
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime






            yea but Valuev was shlt






            ...
            Not only that but for all Haye's faults he could crack

            Comment

            • Noelanthony
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Aug 2016
              • 8896
              • 948
              • 586
              • 105,165

              #16
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              But Josh is such a good athlete can run fast. T hats why he got so much success so fast.
              usyk must be prepared for someone who hits so fast, so quick on feet and tricky
              We should keep you on Joshua threads and away from Pacquiao and Mayweather threads you don't sound so ridiculous today. Give your self a pat on the back this shows progress

              Comment

              • The plunger man
                the minge monster
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Dec 2014
                • 9139
                • 1,021
                • 263
                • 67,551

                #17
                Joshua ....beaten klitchcko , pulev , povetkin , whyte . parker , ruiz
                Usyk ..... beaten chisora , Witherspoon , gassiev , bellew , briedis , hunter

                I think usyk has bittten off more than he can chew and if he is trying to give a comparison to Holyfield facing valuev to him facing Joshua then he is in a whole heap of trouble and it will painful night for him.

                interesting fight

                Comment

                • Ropeydope
                  gatekeeper
                  Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 774
                  • 591
                  • 460
                  • 6,063

                  #18
                  Obviously the size disparity is the big question mark, but apart from that I would say it’s Joshua who is out of his depth. Usyk has sick skills. Nobody believed me when I said he’d school Gassiev. Now people know who he is a bit more, but still don’t seem to comprehend. Keep saying, “he hasn’t looked as dominant at heavyweight.” He only has to keep winning. Joshua definitely has to find a way to ko him, there is no way he’ll outbox him. If AJ get decision, it will probably be highly contentious. I’ll be watching and give credit where due if otherwise, but his jab ain’t all that to bother the Ukrainian all that much.

                  Comment

                  • -Kev-
                    this is boxing
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 39914
                    • 5,025
                    • 1,447
                    • 234,543

                    #19
                    Size definitely matters. Especially your size in relation to your skills. That’s why there are 17 weight classes. GGG can’t go up to HW to fight Fury. I mean he technically could, but the size would be way too much. I also don’t think Naoya Inoue fighting Canelo would be a match we would ever see. And so on.

                    ”But Andy Ruiz doe”

                    Andy Ruiz is massive. He is bigger than Joshua.

                    “But Haye vs Valuev doe.”

                    Valuev also lost to a 49 year old shot Evander Holyfield and got a bogus decision, in the fight right before Haye. Valuev is not a good mention at all. He was extremely slow and unathletic. He moved like Andre Giant.

                    These massive HW’s like AJ and Fury are also athletic and they are skilled. No where near as bad as Valuev.

                    Usyk vs Wilder is a better matchup in weight. Even though Wilder is 6’7”, he does not weigh a lot. Wilder weighs as much as prime Mike Tyson weighed. Which is pretty small.

                    With great skills, you can compensate for being smaller. But even the most highly skilled fighters in history would get to a point where their superior skills can’t overcome size. There is a limit to everything. Like the saying goes “Too much of anything will hurt you.”

                    Lastly, Usyk’s body shows that he is a blown up Cruiserweight. He is only 215lbs and looks soft in the midsection/chest. Ruiz is also soft looking but that’s at 260-280lbs. He can lose a ton of weight and still be a legit HW. Usyk can’t go any lower.

                    Comment

                    • REDEEMER
                      Banned
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 11820
                      • 1,336
                      • 1,008
                      • 153,574

                      #20
                      Originally posted by letsgochump
                      Valuev had next to zero skill and it was still a fairly even fight. His only claim to fame was his size.

                      Sammy Scaff also lost to Mike Tyson despite being bigger. Size alone doesn't matter but Joshua brings in much more than Valuev or Sammy Scaff.

                      More often than not bigger man wins and this will be a factor here too. If AJ wins he won't get mad credit bcs he beat a small guy.
                      Those big guys were slow ,it’s a bit ridiculous when posters use Valuev vs Haye or even Ruiz as a point because he didn’t even win one round when AJ had a full training camp . Usually the smaller guy is much quicker but AJ is arguably faster then Usyk in the division with the big power difference which is what the biggest difference in the fight really is .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-24-2021, 06:06 AM.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP