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  • Murray Kelm
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    #31
    Size definitely matters, even Loma could not over come the bigger and very skilled Lopez

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    • REDEEMER
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      #32
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      so a big meal before the weigh in caused a 15 pound increase in his fight weight just 6 months later? Highly unlikely. I’m pretty sure plenty made a big deal about that weight gain prior to the start of the fight. If anyone was at a disadvantage with training camp for the first fight it was definitely Ruiz. Arguing otherwise and blaming the media is ridiculous.
      A fighter of Ruiz size can easily fluctuate 10/15 pounds also he wore extra clothing at the weigh in .

      Ruiz was training for a big opponent,AJ had never fought anyone like Ruiz and sparred only 2 weeks for him with a lot of media distractions training in Miami as well ,so no it is ridiculous to state Ruiz was at a disadvantage he had been trying to get the AJ fight as soon as Miller dropped out and was in training so it was AJ who had to actually make short term adjustments .

      Posters said how great Ruiz looked and how size would help him bully AJ the story changed as Ruiz was easily out boxed just like it will change after tomorrow when he defeats Usyk .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-24-2021, 12:13 PM.

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #33
        Originally posted by OnlytheTruth

        I was going to bite but I genuinely cannot be bothered to go through this with you.
        Go through what?

        Tor Hamer QUITS against that same Andy Ruiz - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Marquez putting Manny to sleep - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Jeff Horn getting his hand raised against Manny - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Felix Verdejo getting knocked out off a jab by Nakatani - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Chocolatito getting put to sleep after losing all four rounds against Srisaket - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Loma taking an L to Teofimo after not throwing for 6 rounds - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Erik Morales getting embarrassed by Zahir Raheem - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Cory Spinks getting dominated by Zab Judah - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Dillian Whyte getting knocked out by old PEDvetkin - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Wilder getting absolutely wrecked by Tyson Fury across two fights when Fury was fresh off the couch and a drug/obesity problem - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Joshua basically making "Prince" Charles Martin QUIT - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Efe Agjaba intimidating Curtis Harper to walk out and QUIT - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Zab Judah getting Bambi'd by Kostya Tszyu - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Ricky Hatton headbutting the buckle off a perfect checkhook by Floyd and "Right Hook, Roll Under" against Manny - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Broner getting dropped and "Problem Solved!" by Chino - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Marquez getting schooled by Freddie Norwood and Floyd - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

        Naseem Hamed getting dominated by Barrera - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.



        There are hundreds of examples where a fighter just takes such a bad L that it overshadows anything else they ever do. I'm sorry but it's the truth and you know it's the truth.

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        • OnlytheTruth
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          #34
          Originally posted by revelated

          Go through what?

          Tor Hamer QUITS against that same Andy Ruiz - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Marquez putting Manny to sleep - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Jeff Horn getting his hand raised against Manny - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Felix Verdejo getting knocked out off a jab by Nakatani - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Chocolatito getting put to sleep after losing all four rounds against Srisaket - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Loma taking an L to Teofimo after not throwing for 6 rounds - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Erik Morales getting embarrassed by Zahir Raheem - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Cory Spinks getting dominated by Zab Judah - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Dillian Whyte getting knocked out by old PEDvetkin - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Wilder getting absolutely wrecked by Tyson Fury across two fights when Fury was fresh off the couch and a drug/obesity problem - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Joshua basically making "Prince" Charles Martin QUIT - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Efe Agjaba intimidating Curtis Harper to walk out and QUIT - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Zab Judah getting Bambi'd by Kostya Tszyu - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Ricky Hatton headbutting the buckle off a perfect checkhook by Floyd and "Right Hook, Roll Under" against Manny - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Broner getting dropped and "Problem Solved!" by Chino - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Marquez getting schooled by Freddie Norwood and Floyd - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.

          Naseem Hamed getting dominated by Barrera - shadow over his WHOLE career. Fact.



          There are hundreds of examples where a fighter just takes such a bad L that it overshadows anything else they ever do. I'm sorry but it's the truth and you know it's the truth.
          The fact that you have a list of examples shows that dark clouds are driven by those who choose to list them. Pretty sad mate. I’d rather be half glass full.

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          • Jab jab boom
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            #35
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            A fighter of Ruiz size can easily fluctuate 10/15 pounds also he wore extra clothing at the weigh in .

            Ruiz was training for a big opponent,AJ had never fought anyone like Ruiz and sparred only 2 weeks for him with a lot of media distractions training in Miami as well ,so no it is ridiculous to state Ruiz was at a disadvantage he had been trying to get the AJ fight as soon as Miller dropped out and was in training so it was AJ who had to actually make short term adjustments .

            Posters said how great Ruiz looked and how size would help him bully AJ the story changed as Ruiz was easily out boxed just like it will change after tomorrow when he defeats Usyk .
            stop it. It sounds like you’re just hell bent on making any excuses you can for Joshua. Fluctuating 15 pounds is not typical for any athlete, especially a boxer and as for the excuse about opponent, Aj went from training for a fat high volume puncher who isn’t known as a ko artist to training for a …..wait for it…..fat high volume puncher who isn’t known as a ko artist. It’s not like he went from training for Valuev and ended up with Mike Tyson.
            Last edited by Jab jab boom; 09-24-2021, 01:51 PM.

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            • Damn Wicked
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              #36
              Comparing Valuev with Joshua is ridiculous. Valuev was one of the slowest heavyweights ever and he wasn’t nearly as athletic as Joshua, nor did he hit as hard, nor did he have the skill set of AJ.

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              • Combat Talk Radio
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                #37
                Originally posted by OnlytheTruth

                The fact that you have a list of examples shows that dark clouds are driven by those who choose to list them. Pretty sad mate. I’d rather be half glass full.
                Glass half full is how you end up with Amir Khan's of the world.

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                • Century Tuna
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by breeto80
                  Problem with this fight is Usyk doesn't have heavyweight power. People think AJ has a China chin. Fact is, maybe it's not the best chin but he gets hurt by " heavy handed " guys. Ie, Klitschko , Ruiz. Both of those guys could whack. Both of those guys had heavyweight knockout power. Usyk doesn't have that heavyweight knockout power. My feeling is AJ will walk thru this guy. He'll feel out Usyk for a few rounds, realize Usyk can't hurt him, then he'll attack. Usyk will feel AJ's heavyweight power and succumb. I wouldn't be surprised if he quits . And honestly, I'm not an AJ fan per say. I respect his skill level and I believe he's a legit heavyweight champ also, but this is just a really bad matchup for Usyk. AJ in 6
                  a walk in the park

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