Comments Thread For: Arum: Fury Told Me How He's Killing Sparring Partners; Arrives In Las Vegas On Saturday

[thack]

Tyson must be in top condition for the most dangerous fighter in boxing.

[kafkod]

This rumour came from Team Wilder, who are not exactly known for telling the truth.

Maybe Anderson did bust him up? So what?

Anthony Joshua has been knocked spark out in sparring loads of times, against guys a hell of lot inferior to Anderson, and it's not exactly done AJ any harm thus far in his career.

The rumour was started by something Bob Arum said in an interview before the postponed July date. Anderson is promoted by Arum and was scheduled to fight on the undercard. Arum was bigging him up and said Jarrod had been "giving Fury hell in sparring"

Literally the day after Arum said that, up popped one of Wilder's posse saying that someone inside Fury's camp told them Jarrod had KO'd Fury in the gym. It was obviously BS, but I dare say Jarrod is a handful in the gym, especially if you're sparring him in rotation with 2 or 3 other guys, which is what Fury would have been doing. He was supposed to give Fury hell. That was what he was there for!

[kafkod]

People put way too much credibility in sparring stories. Fighters....(ALL FIGHTERS)....get hurt during sparring. That's what it's for. It's a controlled environment that allows a fighter to try out new strategies, and to expose their weaknesses intentionally. So yes, you will get hit in sparring and you will get stung and you will get hurt. That's the whole purpose. If you're beating your sparring partners easily then there is always the possibility they are going too easy on you. And that doesn't help at all!!! Well, maybe for minor confidence building, but not too much in the long run.

So I suggest taking any sparring reports as totally subjective things. The fight night opponent will not "fight" exactly the same as the sparring partner, and the main fighter will not respond the same then and at fight night to everything the sparring partner does vs the opponent. Now, sparring has its place, and one of the ideas is to mimic the opponent, but again, it's to show the fighter's weakness to the opponent. So, these things will happen in sparring. They are a natural occurrence.

Personally, I like hearing that a fighter is being challenged in sparring, because at the very least, we know he's being exposed to some weakness in his game and will hopefully adjust things in camp to keep that exploit from happening come fight night.

Spot on! The last thing a fighter needs while preparing for a big fight is an easy time in the gym.

[HOF Hater]

People put way too much credibility in sparring stories. Fighters....(ALL FIGHTERS)....get hurt during sparring. That's what it's for. It's a controlled environment that allows a fighter to try out new strategies, and to expose their weaknesses intentionally. So yes, you will get hit in sparring and you will get stung and you will get hurt. That's the whole purpose. If you're beating your sparring partners easily then there is always the possibility they are going too easy on you. And that doesn't help at all!!! Well, maybe for minor confidence building, but not too much in the long run.

So I suggest taking any sparring reports as totally subjective things. The fight night opponent will not "fight" exactly the same as the sparring partner, and the main fighter will not respond the same then and at fight night to everything the sparring partner does vs the opponent. Now, sparring has its place, and one of the ideas is to mimic the opponent, but again, it's to show the fighter's weakness to the opponent. So, these things will happen in sparring. They are a natural occurrence.

Personally, I like hearing that a fighter is being challenged in sparring, because at the very least, we know he's being exposed to some weakness in his game and will hopefully adjust things in camp to keep that exploit from happening come fight night.

It's stunning the amount of people that can't comprehend this.

A fighter will PURPOSEFULLY try new tactics that make them VULNERABLE against sparring opponents. The point is to learn if its feasible or dangerous/******. So, YES, fighters will get HURT in sparring...its called PRACTICE for a reason. This is also where PERFECT fights happen. When fighters TRAIN a certain way and demonstrate PROGRESS during camp against sparring partners (not DOMINATING THEM but IMPROVEMENT) they are more likely to DOMINATE their opponent and fight the "perfect" fight.

Floyd v Corrales
Manny v Hatton
Manny v DLH
Danny Garcia v Khan
Fury v Wilder II
Canelo v Smith
Loma v Walters
Loma v Rigo

Those were all nearly PERFECT fights where the winner was essentially in control the entire time and, prior to the fight, oddsmakers had the WINNER either a SLIGHT favorite or even an underdog. I PROMISE YOU the winners faced adversity, likely got hurt on more than one occasion, during sparring and yet - that didn't mean a damn thing.

If you don't believe me, ask a consensus TOP 5 FIGHTER EVER in Sugar Ray Leonard who said he was KO'd in sparring ~2 weeks PRIOR to fight Hagler. His camp changed their ENTIRE FIGHT STRATEGY IN UNDER 2 WEEKS based off getting KO'd in sparring by a....SPARRING PARTNER. SRL went on to win over another legend and cemented his status as ONE of the BEST to EVER do it.

Dumb ILLBC kiddos don't understand boxing. At all. They just understand "race" CTFU

[JayCho]

Can’t believe Arum went to see Fury even though he “had” Covid…. Surely an Arum being as old as a dinosaur should have stayed away from him?

Can’t wait for the next open workout at the Top Rank Gym …. Fixed the roof leak and some NEW carpets

[DougalDylan]

Wilder was knocked out by Vlad in sparring, plenty of witnesses (presumably why he avoided the fight)
Whyte beat up Fury in sparring (several reports) ..
Aj got flattened by Price (openly admits it and tells the story)

Sparring is for learning.

This rumour came from Team Wilder, who are not exactly known for telling the truth.

Maybe Anderson did bust him up? So what?

Anthony Joshua has been knocked spark out in sparring loads of times, against guys a hell of lot inferior to Anderson, and it's not exactly done AJ any harm thus far in his career.

[Greenfield02]

Arum and Fury said it, must be true......

[davefromvancouv]

This rumour came from Team Wilder, who are not exactly known for telling the truth.

Maybe Anderson did bust him up? So what?

Anthony Joshua has been knocked spark out in sparring loads of times, against guys a hell of lot inferior to Anderson, and it's not exactly done AJ any harm thus far in his career.

The rumor came from the Fury camp. And it wasn't just Anderson. First, Efe Ajagba knocked him down, then Jarrod Anderson finished him off. Fury realized that he needed to recover and he needed more time.

Real reason why Fury postponed Wilder July 24 trilogy, getting knocked out by Efe Ajagba then schooled by Jared Anderson (7:27 - 19:54, 49:00 - 1:02:44):

clip 1: https://www.youtube.com/embed/Erlp-a...t=447&end=1194

clip 2:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Erlp-a...=2940&end=6164

full video:

[DougalDylan]

Furys fighting Canelo ?
I think he's actually fighting Wilder next ?

Tyson must be in top condition for the most dangerous fighter in boxing.

[removed]

The rumor came from the Fury camp. And it wasn't just Anderson. First, Efe Ajagba knocked him down, then Jarrod Anderson finished him off. Fury realized that he needed to recover and he needed more time.

Real reason why Fury postponed Wilder July 24 trilogy, getting knocked out by Efe Ajagba then schooled by Jared Anderson (7:27 - 19:54, 49:00 - 1:02:44):

clip 1: https://www.youtube.com/embed/Erlp-a...t=447&end=1194

clip 2:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Erlp-a...=2940&end=6164

full video:

LDBC YouTube channels ain't proof my friend.