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  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

    You're trying to claim Loma should have fought Haney before the Lopez fight? Really? You know he was going to fight Lopez next and all the messing about Lopez was doing. The pandemic stalled the fight. You would have called Loma a coward had he went in another direction. He stayed on Lopez and forced the fight. That's what a champion should do when extremists make claim that he doesn't want to fight Lopez. He proved it in every way.

    As for the "Privilege" comment... It's too clear and obvious. But you will project. my god will you. Trying to convince me otherwise is pointless. I know what it all is.
    The privilege comment is made to that poster, who called canelo out but isn’t calling Loma out. Don’t pretend you don’t get that. But I stand by it- Loma has to earn a rematch, he will not be given one.

    It’s a weak argument to claim I would have said something. just talk about Loma’s actions. No need to speculate.

    If an American had dropped a belt like that you’d be killing him for it.

    The pandemic hit 6 months after he dropped the belt so that excuse holds no water.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      What, the "Your boys" part? I mean Americans when i say that. But i'm not surprised to see the "Racist" call.

      Davis himself said he didn't want the fight with Loma. Loma has never once said anything of the sort. Huge difference. Davis can fight top fighters when ever he likes. But he and his team don't want it. It's just excuses like the rest give out. It's f3cking boring. They're all ducking. But it's you who actually wants to defend against actual facts.

      as for the anti calls... It's not my fault if it's all true. The madness we get our way? Now that is anti. Not a jot of it is true. It's just slander and smears. It's the way American society works.
      If this is your opinion on Tank, then how can you have a different opinion of Loma when he dropped the belt rather than fight Haney?

      It simply doesn’t make sense to call one scared and not the other, given their actions. Period.

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        The privilege comment is made to that poster, who called canelo out but isn’t calling Loma out. Don’t pretend you don’t get that. But I stand by it- Loma has to earn a rematch, he will not be given one.

        It’s a weak argument to claim I would have said something. just talk about Loma’s actions. No need to speculate.

        If an American had dropped a belt like that you’d be killing him for it.

        The pandemic hit 6 months after he dropped the belt so that excuse holds no water.
        No, when talking about Loma, you said "Back of the line for him. No privilege for him". You weren't directing the comment at the poster. It was directed towards Loma. You're talking about race, and this is a clear comment said by black people when talking about supposed privilege in order to demonise white people. I know what you meant. I'm not ******, Dunn. Don't try and treat me as such.

        You have either forgotten about Lopez messing around and stalling things, or you're pretending you have. Lopez was refusing to fight unless he got a certain amount of money. Loma was talking about giving some of his purse just the get him in the ring. Then the pandemic hit, and made things worse. The fight eventually came off, all thanks to Loma. He went after Lopez, and stuck on him. He didn't walk away and go in another direction. Lopez was the one haters were calling for. But like i said, when it became apparent he was willing to fight him, they needed another angle for their slander. That is where Haney came in. To suggest Loma did anything of the sort you're accusing him of, is nothing but malicious slander like you've done to others. I will correct that kind of poison.

        As for the claim Loma was out for a year and twisting this fact, it's clear why. The same way it's clear why Haney was out for a year too.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          If this is your opinion on Tank, then how can you have a different opinion of Loma when he dropped the belt rather than fight Haney?

          It simply doesn’t make sense to call one scared and not the other, given their actions. Period.
          Because i know they're different reasons. Tank even posted himself on his personal account that Floyd was trying to get him beat by making the Loma fight. When has Loma ever spoken like that personally? And Loma isn't the only one Tank has ducked. He's ducking all threats. Loma fights them. To suggest he's nervy about Haney after all the fighters he's got in the ring against, is ridiculous. Loma is proven the way Tank isn't. They're polar opposites here in the way they go about their career. One is a real fighter willing to prove himself and create a real legacy, the other is faking it and making sure he gets in the ring with weak fighters in order to guarantee victory. He doesn't believe he'll win against the top fighters. He just wants people to claim he could without ever having to prove it. That, or aging fighters out and making sure they're past it before attempting it.

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            Because i know they're different reasons. Tank even posted himself on his personal account that Floyd was trying to get him beat by making the Loma fight. When has Loma ever spoken like that personally? And Loma isn't the only one Tank has ducked. He's ducking all threats. Loma fights them. To suggest he's nervy about Haney after all the fighters he's got in the ring against, is ridiculous. Loma is proven the way Tank isn't. They're polar opposites here in the way they go about their career. One is a real fighter willing to prove himself and create a real legacy, the other is faking it and making sure he gets in the ring with weak fighters in order to guarantee victory. He doesn't believe he'll win against the top fighters. He just wants people to claim he could without ever having to prove it. That, or aging fighters out and making sure they're past it before attempting it.
            You’re doing it again. You’re judging one by their actions and the other by your opinion.

            With Tank, you’re judging who he is based on a sound bite from Floyd. You’re calling him a ducker simply because fights didn’t happen. You’ve decided he isn’t trying to create a legacy when he beat Pedraza before Loma did. Stop.

            Its fine if you don’t like Tank, Floyd and Haymon.

            Loma drops a belt rather than fight Haney, and you talk about everything but those actions. You’re giving him a pass unfairly.

            Just f-cking stop that.

            Judge everyone by their actions.

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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              No, when talking about Loma, you said "Back of the line for him. No privilege for him". You weren't directing the comment at the poster. It was directed towards Loma. You're talking about race, and this is a clear comment said by black people when talking about supposed privilege in order to demonise white people. I know what you meant. I'm not ******, Dunn. Don't try and treat me as such.

              You have either forgotten about Lopez messing around and stalling things, or you're pretending you have. Lopez was refusing to fight unless he got a certain amount of money. Loma was talking about giving some of his purse just the get him in the ring. Then the pandemic hit, and made things worse. The fight eventually came off, all thanks to Loma. He went after Lopez, and stuck on him. He didn't walk away and go in another direction. Lopez was the one haters were calling for. But like i said, when it became apparent he was willing to fight him, they needed another angle for their slander. That is where Haney came in. To suggest Loma did anything of the sort you're accusing him of, is nothing but malicious slander like you've done to others. I will correct that kind of poison.

              As for the claim Loma was out for a year and twisting this fact, it's clear why. The same way it's clear why Haney was out for a year too.
              If you think that you’re wrong. But believe whatever you wish.

              Loma dropped the belt Aug 31, 2019. How is that slander? He dropped the belt rather than defend it against Haney. How you suggest that is some false accusation is ridiculous.

              The pandemic shut everything down March 2020. Loma gave the belt up 6 months before that.

              You’re clearly giving him a pass for reasons only you know.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                You’re doing it again. You’re judging one by their actions and the other by your opinion.

                With Tank, you’re judging who he is based on a sound bite from Floyd. You’re calling him a ducker simply because fights didn’t happen. You’ve decided he isn’t trying to create a legacy when he beat Pedraza before Loma did. Stop.

                Its fine if you don’t like Tank, Floyd and Haymon.

                Loma drops a belt rather than fight Haney, and you talk about everything but those actions. You’re giving him a pass unfairly.

                Just f-cking stop that.

                Judge everyone by their actions.
                I'm judging Davis by his actions. He cried on Twitter about having to face Loma. That is a fact. He's spoken about not fighting other fighters too. This isn't something that goes on behind his back. He's for it. Just like his team. He knows what he has to do. When Davis speaks, we listen to what he says. We follow his actions. This is what we have. They chose this. It didn't happen by mistake.

                Who cares if he beat Pedraza before Loma? What???? Is that the legacy way? To beat Pedraza before Loma? When did this get arranged? This one is new to me. But i think you're on your own here. You might as well just say he's great because he has ears, and they're bigger than Loma's. "Hater".

                I don't like ducking and careful match making. Only weak cowards do that. Not championship fighters.

                How could he drop the title to avoid Haney when the plan was Lopez? Give me the exact date Loma should have fought Haney?

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  If you think that you’re wrong. But believe whatever you wish.

                  Loma dropped the belt Aug 31, 2019. How is that slander? He dropped the belt rather than defend it against Haney. How you suggest that is some false accusation is ridiculous.

                  The pandemic shut everything down March 2020. Loma gave the belt up 6 months before that.

                  You’re clearly giving him a pass for reasons only you know.
                  The plan was to fight Lopez after his fight against Campbell. It was the fight nearly every fight fan was calling for. Not Haney. So, when could the fight happen?

                  I have something greater than belief. I have facts.

                  No comment on the privilege statement that you lied about? Huh? You're the one who needs to stop.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    I'm judging Davis by his actions. He cried on Twitter about having to face Loma. That is a fact. He's spoken about not fighting other fighters too. This isn't something that goes on behind his back. He's for it. Just like his team. He knows what he has to do. When Davis speaks, we listen to what he says. We follow his actions. This is what we have. They chose this. It didn't happen by mistake.

                    Who cares if he beat Pedraza before Loma? What???? Is that the legacy way? To beat Pedraza before Loma? When did this get arranged? This one is new to me. But i think you're on your own here. You might as well just say he's great because he has ears, and they're bigger than Loma's. "Hater".

                    I don't like ducking and careful match making. Only weak cowards do that. Not championship fighters.

                    How could he drop the title to avoid Haney when the plan was Lopez? Give me the exact date Loma should have fought Haney?
                    I literally posted you’re judging Tank by his actions. Judge Loma using the same standard.

                    You’re doing it again. You know he dropped the belt. There were multiple stories on this site and others about it. If you don’t like duckers then how the f-ck are you not upset fro someone that drops a belt to avoid a fight?

                    He dropped the belt Aug 31, 2019. Covid hit March 2020. Teo fight was much later. He easily could’ve fought Haney between Sept and January.

                    Stop giving a fighter to I like a pass. Judge them both on their actions.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      The plan was to fight Lopez after his fight against Campbell. It was the fight nearly every fight fan was calling for. Not Haney. So, when could the fight happen?

                      I have something greater than belief. I have facts.

                      No comment on the privilege statement that you lied about? Huh? You're the one who needs to stop.
                      He had a mando defense. There was plenty of time to make that defense and keep the wbc belt between Sept 2019 and January 2020.

                      When the mando defense was an easy one, Loma made it. When it was a tougher one he dropped the belt. If you have facts then deal with this fact.

                      No privilege for Loma. He has to earn a title shot now by beating Haney or waiting for the winner of Teo/Haney in a 4 belt unification fight. Back of the line behind Haney.

                      I did address it. I posted if you think that, you’re wrong but believe what you wish.

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