Why do some fans want to see young boxers step up so quick?

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  • -Kev-
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    Why do some fans want to see young boxers step up so quick?

    Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

    I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

    Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

    For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

    Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

    A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

    It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.
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    #2
    Every young prospect think he’s the best

    so prove it

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    • DaNeutral.
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      #3
      They do get pushed fast and thrown in to the lions while still green and then you get some that seem to want to drag their feet and keeping being labelled a youngster or a prospect even though they getting in to their late 20's or after we'll over 30 Pro fights.

      But alot of time these youngsters come with alot of mouth about the top fighters in their division. You wana smack talk the top guys ppl are guna want you to back it up.

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      • Rayzah
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        In every other sport no matter the age your objective is the championship and to prove ur the best in the sport. Let’s keep that same energy in boxing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

          I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

          Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

          For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

          Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

          A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

          It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.
          People want to see greatness. DLH had no issue w/ that and neither did Floyd or Manny.

          To all the Floyd nut boys...Manny has several losses and ranks higher on ATG than Floyd....undefeated is mostly arbitrary especially w/ fights like JLC1 and Maidana1

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          • Boxfan83
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            #6
            I dont mind if some kid takes it slow as long as he isnt a champ of sort (Interim, Regular, Super etc). Its annoying asf seeing a Champ of these sorts fighting no hopers while woofing online.

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              #7
              Originally posted by HOF Hater

              People want to see greatness. DLH had no issue w/ that and neither did Floyd or Manny.

              To all the Floyd nut boys...Manny has several losses and ranks higher on ATG than Floyd....undefeated is mostly arbitrary especially w/ fights like JLC1 and Maidana1
              nobody credible thought Maidana beat Floyd.

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                #8
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

                I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

                Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

                For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

                Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

                A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

                It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.
                Because they have big mouths………………….

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                • -Kev-
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PanchoGomez
                  In every other sport no matter the age your objective is the championship and to prove ur the best in the sport. Let’s keep that same energy in boxing.
                  No. That’s not how it works.

                  There are levels to every sport.

                  A young player has to play at every level.

                  Boxing does not have “high school varsity league”, “the minor leagues”, or “college football”.

                  They have amateurs and then pros. Some don’t even have a strong amateur background and need build them up in the pros.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by HOF Hater

                    People want to see greatness. DLH had no issue w/ that and neither did Floyd or Manny.

                    To all the Floyd nut boys...Manny has several losses and ranks higher on ATG than Floyd....undefeated is mostly arbitrary especially w/ fights like JLC1 and Maidana1
                    That was very random and offtopic. I am not sure what Mayweather vs Maidana and JLC has to do with this topic of young fighters being pushed around by fans. This thread has nothing to do with Mayweather vs Pacquiao. It’s not even close.

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