Why do some fans want to see young boxers step up so quick?

[BendOver]

Pro Boxing is like literally anything else, any sport, any academic subject, any job. Anything.

I really would not appreciate entering college and being thrown straight into Calculus III. Without even taking College Algebra, Precalculus, Calculus I and II and what ever the heck type of math comes before Calculus III. Don’t know, don’t care. All I know is I took College Algebra, busted my dumbass on it, got an A on it, and told myself this is the last math class I am taking in my life (that and College Statistics).

Regardless, please understand guys, an up and coming fighter looking good vs C and D level showcase fighters, does NOT mean they should fight the #1 fighter of their division to “see what they are really made of”.

For god’s sake, beloved fighters of history with 100 wins, did not fight 100 top 10 fighters. Yes they fought more frequently, but these frequent opponents had something in common: they have close to a losing record or are just above 500% in their win/loss column. Or even worse, they were debuting.

Jake Paul, who is not the best boxer in the world, could go 50-0 just fighting people who have no business in the boxing ring. A lot of these inflated records consist of that. People off the street or fighters that are just good at all. No, I am not defending Paul. This is not about him, just an example that with good matchmaking, any boxer on Earth can end up 100-5-4.

A young up and coming prospect who’s steamrolling vs C, D level fighters doesn’t mean he has to fight the top 5 of his division to prove himself.

It’s like that with any sport, any career, any subject. I considered myself a smart student when I attended college. But just because you are smart, does not mean you are ready for the MCAT or Bar exam without even studying for it at all. Same for boxing, looking good in the ring vs lower level fighters does not make you ready for the elites without even showing you can dominate B fighters. But this is what fans expect out of young fighters. They do not care if the young fighter needs to increase the opponent level gradually. Fight an A class fighter now and lose for being inexperienced will just get silly comments from the same fans. When the fighter loses, he is a joke and needs to retire.

They don't need to be pressure it nor rushed, that's for sure. The wrong opponent and otherwise once promising career, can go down the drain. They're other fighters, like Morell Jr. That you have to match him tough, he's young, but was a very good amateur. Others don't have the same background, so they learning on the job. Be safe

[BendOver]

A loss is a big deal in boxing. This isn’t mma. I understand why boxers can take a long time to step up. Also name recognition and the amount of money you can add to the fight is important in boxing. No champ wants to fight an opponent who has a good enough chance of winning before that opponent can bring in enough money to make it worth while. This is prize fighting. UFC is run by the WWE style, they’ve said as much. You can say you want to fight the best, but that tune changes when you have a belt. Then you want to fight who will make you the most money and also on beating easier opponents that generate the most profit to risk. The more wins you put together the higher your purses get. It’s all very calculated. Nobody gets the belt and fights more often. Truthfully at the top level it’s all negotiated like it will be the lay fight of their lives. If not that then there’s rematch clauses tied in. A young fighter who beats a champ isn’t likely going to return the favour to someone else.

A loss is not a big deal, used to be a part of the process.

[BodyBagz]

Don't know what is considered ''quick'' BUT, we don't want young guys languishing in tin can alley too long.

[BodyBagz]

A loss is not a big deal, used to be a part of the process.

True. A loss can sometimes be the best thing to happen to a fighter. Thing is, how many losses is too many ? And do they include KO losses ?

[HOF Hater]

nobody credible thought Maidana beat Floyd.

No. Some thought it was a draw though

[HOF Hater]

That was very random and offtopic. I am not sure what Mayweather vs Maidana and JLC has to do with this topic of young fighters being pushed around by fans. This thread has nothing to do with Mayweather vs Pacquiao. It’s not even close.

I'll connect the dots since you can't draw a straight line. AKA youre a fucking imbecile

The last "greats" we witnessed were DLH, Floyd, and Manny. These guys all stepped up their competition very early in their careers. Although they were mostly successful they did encounter some very tough fights and even losses. Even Floyd, who is technically undefeated, had favorable judging on a few occasions. Despite Floyd's undefeated record many fans hold Manny ahead of him in terms of ATG rankings.

The point is - fans want to witness greatness in EVERY sport. They wanted Mahomes vs Brady to gauge where Mahomes was at in terms of greatness. They wanted Canelo v Floyd, Loma v Teofimo, DLH v Pernell, Thurman v Manny...these are SPECIAL fights because they're either passing of the torch fights OR career-defining wins.

So the fans PUSH young talents to take CHALLENGES. Adversity weeds out the weak and/or unprepared. And through adversity greatness emerges. Even in DEFEAT...greatness can still grow. Canelo lost as a 22 year old to an old but clearly not SHOT Floyd. Canelo used that loss as motivation and as a means of education...he evolved as a fighter and has become GREAT himself.

Only quacks like yourself want to see more Peter Quillins or Lucian Butes or Deontay Wilder or Gennady Golovkin. Those fools feasted on C and D competition their entire career and when they finally stepped up to world-level opponents they either got sparked or exposed as being ordinary.

Hell, Wilder has been reduced to twerking for money on Malik Scott OF...and youre probably a subscriber. Weirdo

tl;dr young fighters seeking challenge against the best is a GOOD thing and not a BAD thing, idiot

[Finito2K]

Simple. It's what we're used to. Ray Leonard and Wilfred Benitez were 23 and 21 years old respectively when they faced off. A year later he'd face Duran at age 24.

Some fighters simply dare to be great. **** protecting your "0".

[BodyBagz]

Simple. It's what we're used to. Ray Leonard and Wilfred Benitez were 23 and 21 years old respectively when they faced off. A year later he'd face Duran at age 24.

Some fighters simply dare to be great. **** protecting your "0".

0's are hard as fk to keep. Lesser men have beaten guys they had no business beating. I think people are dissing 0's because May has one. MFing historians were sucking Marciano's cawk for having an 0 and no one was crying.

If Pac or SRR or SRL or Duran had an 0, you better believe those 0's would mean plenty.

(Obviously guys who managed to find 100+ guys to beat AND have an 0 in their careers would be superhuman )

[-Kev-]

I'll connect the dots since you can't draw a straight line. AKA youre a fucking imbecile

The last "greats" we witnessed were DLH, Floyd, and Manny. These guys all stepped up their competition very early in their careers. Although they were mostly successful they did encounter some very tough fights and even losses. Even Floyd, who is technically undefeated, had favorable judging on a few occasions. Despite Floyd's undefeated record many fans hold Manny ahead of him in terms of ATG rankings.

The point is - fans want to witness greatness in EVERY sport. They wanted Mahomes vs Brady to gauge where Mahomes was at in terms of greatness. They wanted Canelo v Floyd, Loma v Teofimo, DLH v Pernell, Thurman v Manny...these are SPECIAL fights because they're either passing of the torch fights OR career-defining wins.

So the fans PUSH young talents to take CHALLENGES. Adversity weeds out the weak and/or unprepared. And through adversity greatness emerges. Even in DEFEAT...greatness can still grow. Canelo lost as a 22 year old to an old but clearly not SHOT Floyd. Canelo used that loss as motivation and as a means of education...he evolved as a fighter and has become GREAT himself.

Only quacks like yourself want to see more Peter Quillins or Lucian Butes or Deontay Wilder or Gennady Golovkin. Those fools feasted on C and D competition their entire career and when they finally stepped up to world-level opponents they either got sparked or exposed as being ordinary.

Hell, Wilder has been reduced to twerking for money on Malik Scott OF...and youre probably a subscriber. Weirdo

tl;dr young fighters seeking challenge against the best is a GOOD thing and not a BAD thing, idiot

All I read was a bunch of off-topic nonsense with your gay ass avatar

Do your family and friends know you have a nude man with his dck hanging as an avatar on a boxing forum?

Fck, this forum is so full of internet gangsters.

[HOF Hater]

All I read was a bunch of off-topic nonsense with your gay ass avatar

Do your family and friends know you have a nude man with his dck hanging as an avatar on a boxing forum?

Fck, this forum is so full of internet gangsters.

You tried being slick and I checked your ass....now you backpedal...shit has me ctfu