Comments Thread For: WBC Prez Defends Decision To Sanction Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceicao

[Jmvfeo]

The WBC Clean Boxing Program uses VADA testing.

Oscar Valdez tested positive on 2 VADA tests.

That should be cause for punishment.

Why does WADA all of a sudden come into play? Someone explain it to me.

(VADA, is a testing body not a adjudicatory body)

The ABC (Association of Boxing Commissions) adopted the WADA standard. When this positive came up, it came up under the VADA standard, not the WADA standard. Oscar passed under the WADA.

There I explained it to you.

[SteveM]

A load of blather by Sulaiman. In brief > ... it's just an appetite suppression and because it's the first time and he's a nice young man we'll let him off with a warning and a re-education program.

[Corelone]

A masking agent for what exactly? The only thing it could cover up would be other amphetamines. Given phentamine is an amphetamine, what would be the point? They all have basically the same affect on your body chemistry, which is to induce a temporary fight or flight type response. And it wouldn't alter the outcome of your VADA test: you'd still test positive for a banned stimulant.

When you have a toxin in your body, it's expelled through your gastric and urinary tract. You pee it out. Masking doesn't mean you can turn lead into gold, it means you're hiding something. Trying to expel an unwanted agent. First the peds, then the flush. It makes no difference, like you say, but there are more reasons for taking a diuretic than just cutting weight.

[tokon]

Phentermine is an upper. It is much stronger than caffeine. Weight loss sure, but it enhances physical strength and speed. You take this before a fight and you have an advantage.
This is a PED. For him to have this in his system enough to show in the test is substantial. With the buzz you get with this stuff, you know you've taken it. It doesn't just get put in your food by mistake. I don't buy this. I think he's dirty. I wouldn't be surprised to see the whole stable dirty. Bradley is right on this. Not a hater. Just don't like PEDs in boxing.

Great post. It's a shame the Brazilian, especially as a former Olympian, hasn't made a stand and pulled out of the fight. But I'm sure if he did he'd never get another big opportunity as the powers that be, eg WBC, in pro boxing are corrupt, with no desire to address the rampant PED use.

[tokon]

My takeaway is that its fine to do PEDs under the WBC just as long as its 'out of competition', whatever 'out of competition' means.

Apparently this term only applies to the actual day of the fight, not the training period up to it?!!

No competitive advantage hahaha how absolutely ridiculous.

[tokon]

The WBC Clean Boxing Program uses VADA testing.

Oscar Valdez tested positive on 2 VADA tests.

That should be cause for punishment.

Why does WADA all of a sudden come into play? Someone explain it to me.

WADA comes "into it" because it's a convenient "out".

[tokon]

I believe VADA provides test results to WBC who then adjudicate on any positive cases. But the commision overseeing the event/site licensee is using WADA testing protocols and criteria?

The commission could licence the fight but WBC could have still stripped Valdez.

[tophat1]

I like the part where they will monitor him over the next few weeks, he's having this fight then out for the rest of the year. Nothing will be in his system

[PETUFF]

Cheaters! Let get Conceicao get in the ring with drugs too and make it a fair fight

[Oldskoolg]

The FBI and or the DEA (who enforces controlled substance laws federally) should look into this matter, especially concerning if the WBC should be allowed to sanction fights in the USA with this absurd turn of events