Pacquiao is the most atheletic fighter since Roy Jones

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  • Pullcounter
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    #51
    Originally posted by We want Floyd
    Here's my question though, Where's your proof that Judah is the harder puncher.
    I have no definitive proof, but I that's why I said "probably"

    What fight(s) of Judah suggests that he is a more powerful puncher than PAC?
    well, Judah KOs real WWs. pac imho is still unproven at WW.

    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    You will have to dig out his one punch finishes of World class opposition then because i aint seen them.
    me either

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    • FeFist
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      #52
      I mean, when you're a risk taker like PAC, the percentage of getting caught goes way up compared to potshotters like Floyd, RJJ, etc.. Imagine if Floyd became more offensive and actually threw combinations in some of those fights, hmm
      Clottey, Castillo, Zab Judah. Mayweather was offensive in those fights throwing combos and still he was able to be evasive.

      Originally posted by DK
      Im not conveniently forget things such as reflexes and flexibility. Ive already said Floyd Mayweather's reflexes are supreme, but does Floyd Mayweather have quicker hands and feet ? i say no, does he hit as hard ? i say no.
      Handspeed could be down to preference. Mayweather goes with accuracy, Pacquiao goes for flurries. In terms fo footspeed I'd rank Floyd above Many above Pacquiao in that department.

      Seriously, if you like a fighter don't overrate them because to me it shows that you are not happy with who they are. Roy Jones was the complete package, Pacquiao is not.

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      • lee majors
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        #53
        Shane Mosely is the closest to Roy in terms of pure atheleticism in the past 20yrs. Shane is 38 and still has some of the fastest hands in the game. /thread

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        • kaki
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          #54
          you're wrong my friend.

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          • them_apples
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
            He does look extremely uncomfortable when he is made to do something he does not want to do, i think we saw a little bit of that when Hatton chased him and he looked awkward trying to back up when he did not want to.

            Someone else pointed this out on here or on another Site and sure enough if you watch Pacquaio vs Hatton you can see a perfect example of it.
            and Floyd looked comfortable? Pacquiao looked pretty good when he had a bull rushing him, Mayweather was running all over the ring and almost fell.

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            • PAC-BOY
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              #56
              Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
              Pacquiao is the most athletic fighter since Roy Jones in his prime.
              Ive thought this for while but never had the balls to say it, but fcuk it thats what i think.
              Cant think of anyone with the raw power and speed of hand & foot since Roy Jones.

              Im not one to overate a fighter and im not trying to make him out to be unbeatable or anything, just that his pure athleticism is what makes him the fighter he is imo. I mean how can you make the mistakes this guy makes and not pay for it yet beat some of the best fighters around his weight.

              I think he is being overhyped and he probably will get beat by a technically superior fight but one thing he deserves a big up for is that athleticism.

              Think about how he had David Diaz falling face first to the canvas because his body went so limp he could not even put his hands out to stop himself, what about his demolition of Hatton ?

              His feet are so fast to, thats what goes unnoticed a lot of the time.
              why ???? ?

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              • sycomantz
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                #57
                Originally posted by them_apples
                and Floyd looked comfortable? Pacquiao looked pretty good when he had a bull rushing him, Mayweather was running all over the ring and almost fell.
                those who have no clue about boxing says Mayweather "runs" ignorance

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                • fightfan_79
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  Pacquiao is the most athletic fighter since Roy Jones in his prime. Ive thought this for while but never had the balls to say it, but fcuk it thats what i think. Cant think of anyone with the raw power and speed of hand & foot since Roy Jones.

                  Im not one to overate a fighter and im not trying to make him out to be unbeatable or anything, just that his pure athleticism is what makes him the fighter he is imo. I mean how can you make the mistakes this guy makes and not pay for it yet beat some of the best fighters around his weight.

                  I think he is being overhyped and he probably will get beat by a technically superior fight but one thing he deserves a big up for is that athleticism.

                  Think about how he had David Diaz falling face first to the canvas because his body went so limp he could not even put his hands out to stop himself, what about his demolition of Hatton ?

                  His feet are so fast to, thats what goes unnoticed a lot of the time.
                  Pac is not "athletic" in the true sense....(Roy's career is based of his quick reflexes and reactions = athleticism). Pac actually isn't very athletic...but his ability to throw from very unorthodox angles coupled with his freakish stamina is what makes him so "dominant".

                  Alot of people don't know that "back in the day"...Pac actually was very into kickboxing....and that would explain his horse legs and excellent balance....you would think that the way he throws punches (punches thru an opponent as Manny Steward put it) he should be able to be KD alot more than usual....but his recovery rate is so good....than someone as technical as Marquez couldn't even get a "flash KD" on him. Respect.....

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                  • fightfan_79
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    Clottey, Castillo, Zab Judah. Mayweather was offensive in those fights throwing combos and still he was able to be evasive.


                    Handspeed could be down to preference. Mayweather goes with accuracy, Pacquiao goes for flurries. In terms fo footspeed I'd rank Floyd above Many above Pacquiao in that department.

                    Seriously, if you like a fighter don't overrate them because to me it shows that you are not happy with who they are. Roy Jones was the complete package, Pacquiao is not.
                    Period.

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                    • Blue Heffner
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                      #60
                      Roy Jones was on another level.
                      Floyd, Judah, Mosely, Ward, Dirrell are all more athletetic than Pacquiao.
                      Pacquiao is not that athletic to me. He can't even fight going backwards, just plants his back foot and throws flurries.

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