Pacquiao is the most atheletic fighter since Roy Jones

[We want Floyd]

2.09 onwards

I don't see what you're trying to point out.

However, what I did notice that I didn't observe when I was actually watching the fight at the MGM, was PAC's clinching.

PAC's clinching wasn't simply hugging, it was very strategic the way he did it. I don't know if it was Roach or Moorer or maybe they had got some tips from some MMA guy.

If you look at how whenever Hatton gets in close, PAC right away would get his underhooks in, and PAC would really seal off any distance between him and Hatton. Getting the underhooks in and not giving any space between them totally nullifies what Hatton does best, which is grab and punch. With Hatton unable to break-off the underhooks, he's not able to get the leverage and space needed to let off those sneaky uppercuts and hooks to the body while grabbing a hold of his opponents other arm.

[Dynamite Kid]

your misunderstanding of **** is out there.

pac leaps and jumps around the ring...floyd is conservative and calculated with everything he does.

how do you think he packs such a punch in such short and quick punches.

pac wings punches. again..what careers has pac sent down the tubes? he hasnt while floyd has beat the piss out of prime fighters and sent their careers on a downward spiral

if you are going to compare floyd and pac you need to judge them differently since they fight differently.

look at how much movement pac needs to move around. look at how much he needs to wing punches for power. floyd doesnt have to do that b/c he places his punches precisely

again...i cant wait for pac to get in the ring with floyd and you will see how floyd murks him.

you dont have to rely on speed if you know how to time. look at what foyd did to judah...pac is not nearly as fast and powerful as judah. no questions asked

You are talking about technique.


Not as powerful as Judah

I might put your on iggy for being (1) nuthugger of Mayweather (2) for being ****** enough to think Judah hits as hard as Pac.

[Dynamite Kid]

How can some think Judah is more athletic than Pac? if he was wouldn't he be pound 4 pound ? because im sure you are not going to sit here and tell me the Pacquiao is P4P because he is a better Boxer than Judah

He trumps Judah for speed of foot, power and stamina, that might explain why his record goes Barrera 2x, Marquez 2x, Hatton, Morales 3x etc etc and Judah's reads something like notable losses...........any good fighter he has fought.

[Pullcounter]

honestly... judah probably punches harder than pac. what judah lacks that pac has is discipline and heart.

[Dynamite Kid]

honestly... judah probably punches harder than pac. what judah lacks that pac has is discipline and heart.

You will have to dig out his one punch finishes of World class opposition then because i aint seen them.

[We want Floyd]

honestly... judah probably punches harder than pac. what judah lacks that pac has is discipline and heart.

Here's my question though, Where's your proof that Judah is the harder puncher. What fight(s) of Judah suggests that he is a more powerful puncher than PAC?

[sycomantz]

honestly... judah probably punches harder than pac. what judah lacks that pac has is discipline and heart.

dont think i have ever agreed with you til now

[Stoppage]

Can't say you're wrong. Pacquiao is one heck of an athletic specimen.

[Dynamite Kid]

Here's my question though, Where's your proof that Judah is the harder puncher. What fight(s) of Judah suggests that he is a more powerful puncher than PAC?

That is what im saying bro. Pacquaio has knocked down, beaten up, destroyed top elite fighters. Judah cant even decision one let alone knock one out.

Lets say Judah does breakdown in the ring mentality, which he does, wouldn't his KO percentage be higher being that you would think he would be gunning for the knockout early more so than Pac because he is thinking he might breakdown later etc ?

[MightyMikeA]

Nice post/read.


I pretty much agree. Its Pacquiao's foot speed that i found so remarkable, you would think its easy to corner a guy like Pacquiao because his footwork when pressured leaves a lot to be desired but his hands are so quick he can hit you 3 times (with power) before you reach him and his feet are quick enough to keep him off the ropes and get him back to the centre of the ring.

Another reason i compared him to Jones is because no one hits with the same speed combined with power since Roy Jones. Shane Mosley is the only comparison imo, because he has knocked a few people silly with speed and power. Lots of fighters throw fast but with an open glove so they look faster because they are not punching with authority. Pacquiao punches hard and fast, Khan punches might look faster to some but that is because he has took the steam of his shots since joining up with Roach.

Lampley said it best "Manny Pacquiao is a storm" and that is what he is, his hand speed combined with punching power and tremendous footspeed.

Mike Tyson like Manny had extremely underrated foot speed that no one seems to mention, they focus more on his hand speed.

There is no comparison bro. Roy Jones brought freakish speed and athleticism to normal sized humans, it's not the same talking about the speed of a little mini man like Pac. Roy was actually the size of a normal human being, don't forget that.