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  • #31
    Originally posted by NachoMan View Post

    Canelo lost to Floyd and GGG (the first fight) only in most people’s eyes. He redeemed himself with a clear victory in the rematch. He also beat Lara and Trout without question. Go rewatch those fights. Floyd was in exactly one fight where he was the underdog (ODLH) and that victory was in no way clear.
    Most people also had him losing to Lara. There's that. He had already aged GGG out then he aged him even more before giving him a rematch. Floyd has never been the underdog because he separated himself from the rest of the boxing world. Who could he have realisticlly fought that would that would have been favored. Floyd beats everyone while Canelo has struggled to separate himself. He could easily have three loses right now if it weren't for biased judging. Notice he ain't talking about Charlo or the top guys at 168 or 175. He's fighting the guys he's supposed to beat.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View Post
      Notice he ain't talking about Charlo or the top guys at 168 or 175. He's fighting the guys he's supposed to beat.
      Uh, what?

      He's unifying all the the belts at 168 and is considering a Bivol fight as well.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

        Uh, what?

        He's unifying all the the belts at 168 and is considering a Bivol fight as well.
        Oh so now he cares about belts? Sorry not buying it. That's his excuse to put off the tough fights. He's vacated belts in the past to avoid tough fights and he'll do it again

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View Post

          Oh so now he cares about belts? Sorry not buying it. That's his excuse to put off the tough fights. He's vacated belts in the past to avoid tough fights and he'll do it again
          If he unifies all the belts at 168 then he's the best at 168. Period.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

            If he unifies all the belts at 168 then he's the best at 168. Period.
            That's a big if. I'll give him props if he doesn't vacate and then run away the way he has in the past.

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            • #36
              Alvarez a great fighter. I don’t think he’ll end up as great as manny though let alone Floyd

              Floyd and manny have more ability than Alvarez

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View Post

                That's a big if. I'll give him props if he doesn't vacate and then run away the way he has in the past.
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                How the heck is that a big “if” when an agreement has already been reached.
                In January of 2021 Canelo was pretty clear that he was looking to unify the 168 division. He then did exactly what he set out to do - picked one belt after another a d only one is left.
                Hos in the world do you come up with IF?

                My bet is, even after he unified the division, I doubt you’d still find something positive to say about him.

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                • #38
                  Without doubt.

                  Off topic slightly but I think Gonzalez should be on that list somewhere too.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mike D View Post


                    I'm not Filipino but my interest has remained as high as it was since he emerged onto the national scene many years ago. That never changed for me.

                    He remained an absolute warrior, an action packed fighter, stayed relevant at the highest level of the sport right up until the very end. Not sure why I would have reason to lose interest in a living legend.

                    But yes, overall interest in him did wane noticeably in recent years. That said, even his worst PPVs would be the best for a guy like, well, Terence Crawford. No disrespect to Crawford btw.
                    | came across as pretty rude...I just had enough.....Ive been watching him since the Ledwaba fight and through the ups and downs and so on.

                    It is like watching Kiss, doing their last farewell tour, with half the original band and most of my hair has gone.

                    I would rather at this point watch Nonito.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BritJimbo View Post

                      | came across as pretty rude...I just had enough.....Ive been watching him since the Ledwaba fight and through the ups and downs and so on.

                      It is like watching Kiss, doing their last farewell tour, with half the original band and most of my hair has gone.

                      Nah you're fine, and I get it. You're far from the only one whose interest waned in Manny. After the JMM KO and Floyd loss, the interest in him went down sharply (and the PPV numbers reflected that).

                      I was just speaking from my own experience.

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