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  • -Kev-
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    Real robberies of recent years

    Fights like Casimero vs Rigondeaux, and Canelo vs Lara are what passes as a robbery nowadays.

    I rewatched Erislandy Lara (speak of the devil) vs Paul Williams, and this is what a real robbery is. When a fighter outlands his opponent in more rounds, with the better shots, and does not get the win.

    Lara outlanded Williams in the powerpunch department in 7 rounds out of 12 (most important imo).
    Lara outlanded Williams in total punches 224 to 200.
    Lara outlanded Williams in power punches 178 to 161.
    Lara landed 49% of his power punches.
    Lara landed 42% of total punches.
    Williams landed at a struggling 21% power punches and 19% total punches.

    No, "total" punches landed don't matter, I understand this, it's who landed more punches in more rounds, and who landed the better punches in more rounds. Not just outlanded the opponent with weak jabs or just "total" punches. It is round by round.

    Lara did everything you're supposed to do to win a 12 round fight. He outlanded Williams in total, jabs, power and in more rounds. Lara undoubtedly landed the more impressive power shots too, in more rounds. The "wow" shots that please the crowd, please the viewers at home and, announcers and press at ring side. Lara did all of that.

    This was a real robbery.

    Boxing could have maybe saved face and overturned this decision to a Win for Lara or at least an NC like they do for PED cheats. But they don't touch clear, corrupt robberies like these. And these type of lack of integrity and lack of real solutions to obvious terrible judging/officiating kills boxing's image.

    Baseball is a very old school sport where people stress "the human element", and still, baseball uses technology to overturn home runs, outs, stolen bases, runs scored, etc. While pro boxing still keeps their ancient ways, doing nothing while boxer's careers get ruined due to corruption.
  • thedarkdragon11
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    #2
    ROFL... Casi vs. Rigo is not a robbery...

    Mell C vs. Castano is... Fox vs. Maestre is...

    Who cares about baseball in NSB...

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    • boxinggod101
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      #3
      Yeah I remember that fight. What a BS decision it was.

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      • Ganondorf
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        #4
        I couldn’t make it through the entire post but Lara vs PWill was definitely a robbery. Lara beat his ass.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #5
          Top of my head
          ;

          James Toney-Dave Tiberi
          Casamayor-Santa Cruz
          Lewis-Holyfield 1
          Whitaker-Ramirez
          Whitaker-Chavez
          De La Hoya-Sturm
          Rios-Abril

          Some of those not so recent but all clear robberies.

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          • Zaroku
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            #6
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Top of my head
            ;

            James Toney-Dave Tiberi
            Casamayor-Santa Cruz
            Lewis-Holyfield 1
            Whitaker-Ramirez
            Whitaker-Chavez
            De La Hoya-Sturm
            Rios-Abril

            Some of those not so recent but all clear robberies.
            Always happy to see you still posting!

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            • pasawayako
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              #7
              pac-floyd
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              pac bradley

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              • BendOver
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                #8
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Fights like Casimero vs Rigondeaux, and Canelo vs Lara are what passes as a robbery nowadays.

                I rewatched Erislandy Lara (speak of the devil) vs Paul Williams, and this is what a real robbery is. When a fighter outlands his opponent in more rounds, with the better shots, and does not get the win.

                Lara outlanded Williams in the powerpunch department in 7 rounds out of 12 (most important imo).
                Lara outlanded Williams in total punches 224 to 200.
                Lara outlanded Williams in power punches 178 to 161.
                Lara landed 49% of his power punches.
                Lara landed 42% of total punches.
                Williams landed at a struggling 21% power punches and 19% total punches.

                No, "total" punches landed don't matter, I understand this, it's who landed more punches in more rounds, and who landed the better punches in more rounds. Not just outlanded the opponent with weak jabs or just "total" punches. It is round by round.

                Lara did everything you're supposed to do to win a 12 round fight. He outlanded Williams in total, jabs, power and in more rounds. Lara undoubtedly landed the more impressive power shots too, in more rounds. The "wow" shots that please the crowd, please the viewers at home and, announcers and press at ring side. Lara did all of that.

                This was a real robbery.

                Boxing could have maybe saved face and overturned this decision to a Win for Lara or at least an NC like they do for PED cheats. But they don't touch clear, corrupt robberies like these. And these type of lack of integrity and lack of real solutions to obvious terrible judging/officiating kills boxing's image.

                Baseball is a very old school sport where people stress "the human element", and still, baseball uses technology to overturn home runs, outs, stolen bases, runs scored, etc. While pro boxing still keeps their ancient ways, doing nothing while boxer's careers get ruined due to corruption.
                The three judges got suspended

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                • boxinggod101
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Top of my head
                  ;

                  James Toney-Dave Tiberi
                  Casamayor-Santa Cruz
                  Lewis-Holyfield 1
                  Whitaker-Ramirez
                  Whitaker-Chavez
                  De La Hoya-Sturm
                  Rios-Abril

                  Some of those not so recent but all clear robberies.
                  Rios-Abril was disgusting too

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                  • Murcielago
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                    #10
                    Paulie Ayala vs Hugo Dianzo

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