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  • #71
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post

    Lol Marquez isn’t an atg and a nobody at welterweight

    And beat manny twice at welterweight anyways

    Says a lot about manny
    Yeah, Manny used to have elite rival of his size unlike Floyd...

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    • #72
      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      He legitly beat Manny 1x after 4 fights they have been fighting each other since both were lws.

      There's no shame in that.

      Fighters do lose last I checked.

      There's about 35-50 guys on all-time great lists who have losses, who are miles ahead of Floyd.

      Manny beating prime Thurman a guy Floyd ducked, is far better than anything Floyd did @ ww.

      Keep pedestalizing mediocrity thats it.
      Lmao the fact you considered Thurman prime after he had just went life and death with Josesito Lopez tells me all I need to know about your opinions.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post

        Floyd beat Manny and Manny's best rival Marquez but he's naturally bigger than them.
        Floyd also beat prime Canelo who Pacquiao wouldn't fight.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
          Floyd has a victory over a top 30 atg fighter when he schooled manny. manny lacks a win over a fighter that great

          Both Alvarez and manny went on and continued to do great things after Floyd schooled em

          manny’s win that aged well [Marquez] pales in comparison
          Horn and Bradley and Floyd have a win over pac and it's arguable whose win were the best, none were satisfactory worthy of celebrating, rather infamous wins.
          Yes, nel o and Pac have did well since Floyd loss, whilst most Floyd victims didnt. So why would you want to draw attention to Pac and nel o doing well since losing to floyd, as it also draws attention to list of the so called good wins of floyd who did nothing after losing to floyd!
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          • #75
            Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
            Lmao the fact you considered Thurman prime after he had just went life and death with Josesito Lopez tells me all I need to know about your opinions.
            Just because a fighter went "life and death" with a fighter has nothing to do with whether he is in his prime or not.

            Thurman was 29, undefeated, held two belts and beat the two tippy top ww's to become the guy to beat, and Manny beat him. Floyd ducked him.
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            • #76
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              Can you name those All Time Greats below lightweight?
              Morales Barrera and Marquez

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                “Stuff of legends”? Really?

                PAC made a name for himself with three guys … Barrera, Morales and Marquez
                He fought them 9 times.
                He lost to Morales once and got plasted by Marquez plus arguably lost at least one of the three fights with Marquez.
                Those stats aren’t “stuffs of legends”. That’s an average fighter’s resume. Manny did not dominate Marquez in any of their 4 fights. He lost once to Morales … that’s already more than half of those fights.

                If your next argument goest to the 2009-2011 Manny then we’ll just disprove that theory too. Manny fought 6 times in that time frame

                Hatton: Floyd had taken his zero.
                Cotto: Was robbed by Margarito and weakened by Catchweight.
                Clottey: Had lost to Cotto.
                Margarito: Destroyed by Mosley a year earlier and weakened by catchweight.
                Mosley: Had literally lost to Floyd and drew with Moraa.
                Marquez: Arguably lost to Marquez.
                He then went on to lose to Bradley and Marquez and magically became no “longer in his prime”.

                How can you call that “stuffs of legends”? Now, let’s throw in the Rios, Broner, Vargas, Mathysse fights. Are those “stuffs of legends”?

                To be fair, Manny beat Thurman to become the oldest WW champ. That’s something to brag about.
                Pacquiao obliterated atg Barrera, beat atg morales in an entertaining rematch, had life and death wars with atg Marquez (I believe he drew the first, won the second, lost the third and fourth.. would’ve been stoked to have seen a fifth which would’ve still had a close outcome)

                “took Hattons 0” Fkn lol
                fans like you think being undefeated actually has any significance for a fight resume. Floyd’s lucky they didn’t take his precious 0 against Castillo because he damn well lost that first fight (and then won the rematch)

                And with old man pacquiao getting wins against the thurnans of the world and “potentially” (ugas/Spence) it’s only pushing pacquiao further away resume wise from Floyd.
                but hey, maybe wins over Jake Paul and Logan Paul might help floyd lol

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post

                  Morales Barrera and Marquez
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                  So in 8 fights total … yet Morales beat him once and Marquez destroyed him with one punch and arguably won one other fight.
                  Sure PAC won some but it’s not like he dominated them.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post

                    Pacquiao obliterated atg Barrera, beat atg morales in an entertaining rematch, had life and death wars with atg Marquez (I believe he drew the first, won the second, lost the third and fourth.. would’ve been stoked to have seen a fifth which would’ve still had a close outcome)

                    “took Hattons 0” Fkn lol
                    fans like you think being undefeated actually has any significance for a fight resume. Floyd’s lucky they didn’t take his precious 0 against Castillo because he damn well lost that first fight (and then won the rematch)

                    And with old man pacquiao getting wins against the thurnans of the world and “potentially” (ugas/Spence) it’s only pushing pacquiao further away resume wise from Floyd.
                    but hey, maybe wins over Jake Paul and Logan Paul might help floyd lol
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                    I’m glad you admit he lost two fights to Marquez.

                    All the other semantics I’m just going to ignore like you ignored the facts I listed.

                    I only have one question for you, prior to 2017, what were your reasons to shït on Floyd’s resume?

                    It’s pretty clear that you have no idea what the words retired and exhibition mean. Floyd could fight Vanilla Ice tomorrow and that’ll be your new reason to share your toxic hate on the man.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post

                      Whatabout pacquiaos run against the all time greats below lightweight. You know, pacquaio actually fought at a lower weight class than floyd.
                      pacquiaos resume shts on Floyd.
                      I wouldn’t say that but there’s an argument it’s better ,losses do hurt though .

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