Those of you who scored the fight for Casimero, explain why?

[Ryannn]

People actually think they are smarter fans by equating Rigo moonwalking for 12 rounds to "boxing skillz"

[rocky_balboa23]

You dont understand the difference between a sport and a street fight. You are the nerd here.

Go back to watching NBA and let the real men talk about something you don't understand.

go watch dancing with the stars or something coz you dont know what fighting is. you are one of the reasons why excitement are being zapped out of the sport coz you think you are smart coz you like "pure'boxers. go suk Rigo's d

[Spoon23]

go watch dancing with the stars or something coz you dont know what fighting is. you are one of the reasons why excitement are being zapped out of the sport coz you think you are smart coz you like "pure'boxers. go suk Rigo's d

True,

These fans who can't seem to differentiate skills from cowardice is what's wrong in boxing as well..

They didn't know the essence of Pro Boxing.

It's called the "HURT BUSINESS."

That's the primary goal in PRO boxing is to inflict pain.

Those, feather fisted pitter patty shots are less scored than clean heavy punches.

While, Amatuer boxing you can be feather fisted and play to tag with feather fisted punches all you want.

Pro Boxing, is about hit and not get hit and to make sure you entertain boxing fans showcasing your skill to inflict pain to your opponent, and preferably by KO. That's what pro boxing is about.

Clean and effective Punches.

And to those who still don't get it.

Defense doesn't give you style points. It's those who connect with authority is what matters.



You can't have effective aggression if you can't hit.

You can't have ring generalship if you can't hit.

You can't have clean punches if you don't throw.

You can't have great defense if you are mile away from your opponent.
You can't have great defense if your opponent hits you more than you hit him.


Sweet Science is getting lost in translation.

Without punching it's not Boxing.. Those 4 criteria is nothing without connecting.

[rocky_balboa23]

True,

These fans who can't seem to differentiate skills from cowardice is what's wrong in boxing as well..

They didn't know the essence of Pro Boxing.

It's called the "HURT BUSINESS."

That's the primary goal in PRO boxing is to inflict pain.

Those, feather fisted pitter patty shots are less scored than clean heavy punches.

While, Amatuer boxing you can be feather fisted and play to tag with feather fisted punches all you want.

Pro Boxing, is about hit and not get hit and to make sure you entertain boxing fans showcasing your skill to inflict pain to your opponent, and preferably by KO. That's what pro boxing is about.

Clean and effective Punches.

And to those who still don't get it.

Defense doesn't give you style points. It's those who connect with authority is what matters.



You can't have effective aggression if you can't hit.

You can't have ring generalship if you can't hit.

You can't have clean punches if you don't throw.

You can't have great defense if you are mile away from your opponent.
You can't have great defense if your opponent hits you more than you hit him.


Sweet Science is getting lost in translation.

Without punching it's not Boxing.. Those 4 criteria is nothing without connecting.

agree. even the amateurs are warned by referees if they dont throw punches, how much more in pro ranks? these so-called "boxers" are hurting boxing. the boxers are the likes of SRR, Ali. Those guys would throw and would punish you if you make mistakes.

[Spoon23]

agree. even the amateurs are warned by referees if they dont throw punches, how much more in pro ranks? these so-called "boxers" are hurting boxing. the boxers are the likes of SRR, Ali. Those guys would throw and would punish you if you make mistakes.

Exactly. If you can't hurt your opponent in pro boxing. You don't deserve the W.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fight ****** so I don`t give a damn who should have won.

[Szef]

Exactly. If you can't hurt your opponent in pro boxing. You don't deserve the W.

Pacquiao didn't deserve the W vs Floyd then.

Glad you've finally admitted it.

[The Ninth Layer]

I scored this fight for Casimero purely on spite.

I've heard people say judges need to be more ******* with 10-10 round scores but honestly this fight needed the option to score rounds 0-0. I honestly feel bad for the judges who had to sit and watch this round for round. At least the fans who paid money for a ticket to this had the option of leaving early.

Maybe in some strictly pure world of boxing only as a sport you could make the case for Rigo. In the real world though scoring these rounds was like comparing slivers of pennies to see who wins an auction. Eventually you hit a point where there's so little on offer that figuring out the difference stops being worth the effort.

Sometimes in fights you get two or three round stretches where neither fighter does much of anything to distinguish himself and you basically have to invent some slim margin for why one guy was better in that round. In those situations I think it's fair to say, hey I gave one guy the arbitrary nod last round and this round was the same, so I'll give it to the other guy and they split the two rounds. When that happens for basically the entire fight eventually I'm just going to say **** it, I'm done scoring and I don't care who wins. It's a draw, whatever.

In a fight like this where the twelve rounds are spent not only with neither guy ever distinguishing himself in any remarkable way, but specifically with one of the two guys doing everything in his power to make sure this does not change, at that point I think there's a pretty clear winner. The winner is the guy trying to fight in a combat sport. The loser is the guy trying to prevent at all costs a fight from happening. The winner is the guy who goes roughly towards where the other guy is and who throws his fists often enough to where I can believe he wants to hit his opponent with one of them. The loser is the guy who moves in every possible direction within the 180 degrees furtherst from his opponent and throws his fists like he is being billed $30,000 for each one.

I honestly don't know how this is even arguable, If this opinion makes me a "casual" boxing fan then great, call me casual and while we're at it let's make "casual boxing" its own separate sport where everyone is on the same page I am, where we all understand that this is a sport defined primarily by punching. Then the "purists" can have their very own "purist boxing" sport in which it is understood that punching is not something expected from the athletes competing in it. We can let the TV networks and advertisers figure out which sport fills stadium seats and broadcasts nationwide to millions of viewers.

A few dummies compared Rigo to Floyd earlier in this thread but Rigo makes even the Floyd who fought Baldomir look like Arturo Gatti on crystal meth. People paid millions of dollars to see Floyd Mayweather, they flew cross country and booked hotels to watch him in person. Even people who hated Floyd's style still paid to watch him if only to hope to see him lose. The one time I came remotely close to paying to see Rigondeaux, the people at my fight party literally forgot there was boxing on during his fight. They remembered again when Canelo and Cotto started walking out. That was probably Rigo's most-watched fight by far and I guaranteed you the vast majority of the people who watched it live could not name either of the fighters in it or tell you anything about the fight other than it was really boring. The few who remember Rigo was one of the fighters in that boring fight probably couldn't tell you who he was fighting without looking it up. I know I can't.

Seriously at this point I have to assume any outspoken Rigondeaux fan is just trolling. Nobody thinks he represents the pinnacle of boxing skill. The people who pretend they think so just want to look smart. Nobody actually likes watching Rigo fight. People just pretend they do because they want attention for being contrary. They won't admit it but if any of them wants to actually prove me wrong, I invite them to post a receipt of any kind proving they spent actual money and time and effort to support their favorite fighter in his live events.

[rocky_balboa23]

I scored this fight for Casimero purely on spite.

I've heard people say judges need to be more ******* with 10-10 round scores but honestly this fight needed the option to score rounds 0-0. I honestly feel bad for the judges who had to sit and watch this round for round. At least the fans who paid money for a ticket to this had the option of leaving early.

Maybe in some strictly pure world of boxing only as a sport you could make the case for Rigo. In the real world though scoring these rounds was like comparing slivers of pennies to see who wins an auction. Eventually you hit a point where there's so little on offer that figuring out the difference stops being worth the effort.

Sometimes in fights you get two or three round stretches where neither fighter does much of anything to distinguish himself and you basically have to invent some slim margin for why one guy was better in that round. In those situations I think it's fair to say, hey I gave one guy the arbitrary nod last round and this round was the same, so I'll give it to the other guy and they split the two rounds. When that happens for basically the entire fight eventually I'm just going to say **** it, I'm done scoring and I don't care who wins. It's a draw, whatever.

In a fight like this where the twelve rounds are spent not only with neither guy ever distinguishing himself in any remarkable way, but specifically with one of the two guys doing everything in his power to make sure this does not change, at that point I think there's a pretty clear winner. The winner is the guy trying to fight in a combat sport. The loser is the guy trying to prevent at all costs a fight from happening. The winner is the guy who goes roughly towards where the other guy is and who throws his fists often enough to where I can believe he wants to hit his opponent with one of them. The loser is the guy who moves in every possible direction within the 180 degrees furtherst from his opponent and throws his fists like he is being billed $30,000 for each one.

I honestly don't know how this is even arguable, If this opinion makes me a "casual" boxing fan then great, call me casual and while we're at it let's make "casual boxing" its own separate sport where everyone is on the same page I am, where we all understand that this is a sport defined primarily by punching. Then the "purists" can have their very own "purist boxing" sport in which it is understood that punching is not something expected from the athletes competing in it. We can let the TV networks and advertisers figure out which sport fills stadium seats and broadcasts nationwide to millions of viewers.

A few dummies compared Rigo to Floyd earlier in this thread but Rigo makes even the Floyd who fought Baldomir look like Arturo Gatti on crystal meth. People paid millions of dollars to see Floyd Mayweather, they flew cross country and booked hotels to watch him in person. Even people who hated Floyd's style still paid to watch him if only to hope to see him lose. The one time I came remotely close to paying to see Rigondeaux, the people at my fight party literally forgot there was boxing on during his fight. They remembered again when Canelo and Cotto started walking out. That was probably Rigo's most-watched fight by far and I guaranteed you the vast majority of the people who watched it live could not name either of the fighters in it or tell you anything about the fight other than it was really boring. The few who remember Rigo was one of the fighters in that boring fight probably couldn't tell you who he was fighting without looking it up. I know I can't.

Seriously at this point I have to assume any outspoken Rigondeaux fan is just trolling. Nobody thinks he represents the pinnacle of boxing skill. The people who pretend they think so just want to look smart. Nobody actually likes watching Rigo fight. People just pretend they do because they want attention for being contrary. They won't admit it but if any of them wants to actually prove me wrong, I invite them to post a receipt of any kind proving they spent actual money and time and effort to support their favorite fighter in his live events.

preach brother. again, my point is amateurs are warned by refs when they do not throw punches. While here in pros, some "purists" praise boxers for running and not trying to engage. Their boxing knowledge is way below amateur level.

[Spoon23]

Pacquiao didn't deserve the W vs Floyd then.

Glad you've finally admitted it.

Pac didn't hurt Floyd? You need glasses buddy.

lol Floyd deserved it for hugging and running right hahaha

Runnin' and huggin' perfect blend of boxing.. Rigo's idol right here..

#FLUKEWIN










Here's the guy who put the hurt in the hurt business by the way.


Dazed and confused.





Effective aggression