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Why would any relatively healthy person take a vaccine that was rushed through and has shown to have serious side effects, and also doesn't even protect you from getting the virus. This is for a virus that has very mild symptoms anyway for 99.999% of the people who get it. Half of those people who get covid probably don't even know they have it.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
If you're so afraid of the COVID mortality rate then just keep getting booster shots and quarantine yourself at home.
Let the rest of us take the risk and carry on with our lives and jobs.
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Originally posted by PotentialToast View PostIt is also BS to suggest the vaccine was marketed as 100% effective. For adults, the risk of COVID > risk from vaccine. Also, more practically for boxers, fewer fights will be called off in a vaccinated population.
And the risk of covid/side effects from covid for relatively healthy adults has shown to be basically null. It is very logical that most of those types of people would be wary of taking an experimental vaccine, rushed through the trials, that has already shown to cause serious side effects in some recipients.
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To put all this another way - anyone who doesn't understand why a relatively healthy person would be wary of taking this vaccine, is just a complete idiot and should not be listened to about anything. Their opinions should not be given any credence in society.
You can make an argument for taking the vaccine as well. If someone wants to take it, that is fine, go ahead. But any fool arguing that it is some clear decision for everyone and that it is some perfect solution, is a grade A sub-room temp IQ idiot.
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Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View PostNotice how the pro-vax whack jobs keep moving the goalposts? Before, it was "the vax will prevent you from getting covid." Now it's "Well, you can still get covid if you've been vaccinated, but at least you won't die." It's impossible to make this goofiness up.
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Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post
Two things. First, a comparison of polio as a killer vs covid as a killer. Polio is a low mortality disease. An epidemic in 1916 terrified the US by killing 6000 people. That's 6000 in one year. Compared to January of this year when over 4000 people were dying per day in the US from Covid.
Second, a comparison of the adminstering of the polio vaccine vs the covid vaccine. Jonas Salk devloped his polio vaccine in 1952 and tested it on a small group of people in 1953. By 1954 they were giving it to millions of school children. The covid vaccine isn't being given to any children under 12 right now. To me, this comparison does not show that the covid vaccine is being dished out in an irresponsibly rash manner when put alongside the history of the polio vaccine.
It is absolutely true that no one knows for sure the long-term effects of the covid vaccine. We do know for sure, there are no side effects after 12 months (I'm editing this to add: for the vast majority of people). I would say we have no cause to reasonably expect side effects, given the science involved and the long history of vaccinology in general. Which is to say, the vaccine follows a well understood basic principle -- it introduces an inert version of the virus (in the case of the viral vector vaccines) to your body (or shortcuts this with messenger RNA in the case of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines) which stimulates your own natural immune system to protect against the live virus. That's it.
In terms of long-term risks, it is down to the individual to make their own informed risk assessment. Personally, I think it is a more cavalier risk to take being unvaccinated.
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Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post
To answer directly one of your questions (why aren't they running ads 24/7): the reason is that under FDA rules, manufacturers cannot promote products under an an Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA), which is the only authorisation they currently have for the vaccines. Pfizer has filed an application for full approval, but until that is given they are simply not allowed to run ads.
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