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  • -Kev-
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    #31
    Originally posted by AeroED

    so its rigged??

    i and many others had ggg beating Canelo twice, and then Canelo ran so fast from 160 my head spun. many also had lara beating canelo and many had canelo winning at most 1 round vs mayweather but one judge had it even. if anything is rigged it is the judging.
    I predicted Lara would win. He was awful. Did not deserve a win. Without Canelo, there would be no “fight”. Lara was in there on PPV fighting boxing’s top seller and all he did was impersonate DLH in the last rounds vs Trinidad. For the whole fight. Just awful. There is outboxing your opponent, and there’s plain old avoiding/not engaging. Lara did the bare minimum in that fight, showed up, jabbed, ran. No power punches, jab run, jab run, jab run. “He won doe”. No, Canelo threw and landed the more meaningful shots. Lara showed up to jab, run and complain in the end. That was his gameplan. Jab, run, complain that he was robbed. He was not there to fight.

    GGG were close fights. Again, it’s a case of Canelo outlanding his opponent in the power punch department. The GGG we were so accustomed to seeing, the power puncher, was jabbing all night. I am not entirely sure why boxers think the key to beating Canelo is to jab and disengage all night. Even Mayweather knew he had to land power shots to win. Mayweather knew he could not just jab and run like he did vs Baldomir. He knew if he allowed Canelo to outland him in power shots, he would lose. Jabs will never be better than power punching. No matter what anyone says. If you outland your opponent in power shots in more rounds, you’re going to win.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #32
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg

      From the ESPN report it seems he wants to be paid 40M+ even if plant gets an injury or gets sick and has to pull out of the fight. Canelo has proven to be quite the diva
      Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant fight talks break off with sources saying deal is dead

      "One that is absurd: If I get injured or sick then he gets a late replacement for the same amount of guaranteed money, but if he gets sick or injured, then we gotta wait for him," Plant added. "We're at seven-and-a-half weeks from the fight; we've lost valuable time that should be spent promoting and drug testing for a fight of this magnitude.

      Canelo Alvarez's talks to meet Caleb Plant on Sept. 18 in Las Vegas broke off, and sources told ESPN that the deal is now 100% dead.

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      • kafkod
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        #33
        Originally posted by -Kev-

        I predicted Lara would win. He was awful. Did not deserve a win. Without Canelo, there would be no “fight”. Lara was in there on PPV fighting boxing’s top seller and all he did was impersonate DLH in the last rounds vs Trinidad. For the whole fight. Just awful. There is outboxing your opponent, and there’s plain old avoiding/not engaging. Lara did the bare minimum in that fight, showed up, jabbed, ran. No power punches, jab run, jab run, jab run. “He won doe”. No, Canelo threw and landed the more meaningful shots. Lara showed up to jab, run and complain in the end. That was his gameplan. Jab, run, complain that he was robbed. He was not there to fight.

        GGG were close fights. Again, it’s a case of Canelo outlanding his opponent in the power punch department. The GGG we were so accustomed to seeing, the power puncher, was jabbing all night. I am not entirely sure why boxers think the key to beating Canelo is to jab and disengage all night. Even Mayweather knew he had to land power shots to win. Mayweather knew he could not just jab and run like he did vs Baldomir. He knew if he allowed Canelo to outland him in power shots, he would lose. Jabs will never be better than power punching. No matter what anyone says. If you outland your opponent in power shots in more rounds, you’re going to win.
        I agree with your opinion on Canelo/Lara. But I think that regarding Canelo/GGG, you are being mislead by BoxRec terminology, which labels any punch that isn't a jab a "power punch". The only objective way to judge the power of a punch is by the effect it has on the guy who takes it, not by the type of punch it is. Eg, if one guy lands a clean, stiff jab, and the other lands a clean left hook, and neither guy is visibly hurt or shaken, then those 2 punches should be judged as equivalent. That's the way judges are taught to score fights and it's the only way to score a fight objectively.


        The key to beating Canelo is simply to land more punches, in more rounds, on him than he lands on you. It shouldn't matter whether the punches you land are jabs, hooks, backhands, crosses, whatever, as long as they land clean. And of course, you also need fair, impartial judges who don't award extra points for A side status or popularity.
        Last edited by kafkod; 07-30-2021, 07:28 AM.

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        • Get em up
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          #34
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
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          fkn clowns, talking about Bivol like hes the boogieman

          since when LMAO






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          This is the most accurate thing that could be said. Everyone wants to think it'll be a true test for Canelo and I see Bivol being exposed and stopped. I will even wager it happens faster than the BJS stoppage if the fight comes through. Styles make fights and the pressure from Canelo will be unbearable for Bivol.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #35
            Originally posted by AeroED

            so its rigged??

            i and many others had ggg beating Canelo twice, and then Canelo ran so fast from 160 my head spun. many also had lara beating canelo and many had canelo winning at most 1 round vs mayweather but one judge had it even. if anything is rigged it is the judging.
            I don't give a *** who you had winning Cleo! Canelo fkn WON!!! So grab your p@ssy and STFU!

            Or be a MAN and go collect that $$$$$$$$$$

            Let me find some betting slips who bet GGG go collect! Tell them YOU think GGG won PAY the *** UP!!!!


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              #36
              Originally posted by Get em up

              This is the most accurate thing that could be said. Everyone wants to think it'll be a true test for Canelo and I see Bivol being exposed and stopped. I will even wager it happens faster than the BJS stoppage if the fight comes through. Styles make fights and the pressure from Canelo will be unbearable for Bivol.
              Bivol got saved by the bell against Joe Blow!!!!! Dude would of been out if there was even 10 seconds left.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #37
                Originally posted by Get em up

                This is the most accurate thing that could be said. Everyone wants to think it'll be a true test for Canelo and I see Bivol being exposed and stopped. I will even wager it happens faster than the BJS stoppage if the fight comes through. Styles make fights and the pressure from Canelo will be unbearable for Bivol.





                Bivol will not beat Canelo

                and the re-tards who insist that Canelo would never take that fight... lost their soul to him a long time ago

                this shlt is actually funny







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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  I don't give a *** who you had winning Cleo! Canelo fkn WON!!! So grab your p@ssy and STFU!

                  Or be a MAN and go collect that $$$$$$$$$$

                  Let me find some betting slips who bet GGG go collect! Tell them YOU think GGG won PAY the *** UP!!!!












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                  • Robi13
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                    #39
                    Man, canelos greatness is really making some People literally go insane lol. I love it!

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702

                      Bivol got saved by the bell against Joe Blow!!!!! Dude would of been out if there was even 10 seconds left.
                      Bivol got hurt twice in that fight. In the 4th with plenty of time for Joe. And after the bell in the 10th. A shot I’d wager wouldn’t have even landed if Bivol hadn’t heard the bell and likely let down his defences.

                      He came back well too, took a rd off to recover and looked like he was on the verge of stopping Smith in the 12th. He’s usually a satisfied fighter, I’m interested to see if Canelo can bring out another gear.
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 07-30-2021, 07:56 AM.

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