Comments Thread For: Arum: My Position Is - If Fury and Joshua Win, Screw Any Mandatories!

[boxinglife8]

No.

Hearn knows that Joshua is going to be a lot easier for Wilder to knock out than Fury. So he's going to put Whyte in the way the second Fury is counted out in the trilogy...

And Hearn knows that you weakened wilder legs on February 22 2020 by giving him a blowie.

Can you get anymore biased

[Monty Fisto]

Fury got lucky. The way he hit the canvas, 9 out of 10 referees would have stopped the fight.

As for Wilder's proof of the water being spiked: I believe him, I believe he has proof and you can bet it won't happen again. Neither will any shenanigans from Fury. It will be a good old fashioned punch up. And Wilder will knock Fury out again. But this time, he'll stay down.

The way a fighter gets back up off the canvas is far more important than they way he hits it, wouldn't you say? The way they go down can give concerns about whether they are all right, but when they get back up and you can see they're all right, it kind of makes the way they hit the canvas irrelevant.

As for the water and the proof: what need is there for proof when we can have instead your belief. Every question is answered and the case is closed. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Oregonian]

You can also add
Tyson Fury. Nandrolone

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I could but I didn’t. If we are to believe the horseshït coming of Wilder fans then we believe Fury never tested positive for anything.
In fact, Fury is the cleanest boxer in the history of the sport.

[Oshio]

Sounds like most of the commentators on this thread sleeps and wakes up with Fury to know all these things. Whatever it is, Fury will win. Not because of its boxing ability but of his schemes, mind, and what he's currently thinking. Wilder needs to prepare to deal with whatever tactics Fury is bringing on fight night

[davefromvancouv]

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To use your logic (that you are pandering as facts), because Wilder believes his water was spiked and “you can bet he has toxicology results that back up his claim”, well, let’s do the same for these guys;

Not facts. Credible evidence.

All these guys tested positive for a banned substance but you can bet their toxicology results and their claim that it’s all lies to discredit them.

• Canelo Alvarez - Clenbuterol
• Luis Nery - Zilpaterol
• Dillian Whyte - Methylhexaneamine
• Jarrell Miller - GW1516
• Kid Galahad - Stanozolol
• Eric Molina - Dexamethasone
• Bermane Stiverne - Methylhexanamine
• Billy Joe Saunders - Oxilofrine
• Luis Ortiz - Hydrochlorothiazide
• Alexander Povetkin - Meldonium
• Tony Yoka - Missed three drug tests.
• Yuriorkis Gamboa - HGH
• Mariusz Wach - Self-admitted.
• Tyrone Spong - Clomifene
• Roy Jones Jr - Androstenedione
• Ryan Martin - Metabolites
• Sadam Ali - Cathine
• Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - Diuretics

Two, “Wilder was weak and was out of sorts”, and in that context, Amir Khan, Roy Jones, PAC, Kovalev, Lennox, Oscar, Tito, Hatton, Ortiz etc were all “out of sorts” when they got KO’d. Trust me on that. I know boxing too well. These guys were out of sorts.

Wilder felt weak before the fight. Everybody else you listed, safe for Kovalev against Canelo, were beaten without controversy. In Kovalev's case, he was weakened by the weight stipulations and the fact that he had just had a gruelling fight with Anthony Yarde before the Canelo fight.

Three and in the context of all the “excuses”you listed, the first thing Wilder claimed after being brutalized like a pińata was the 40Ibs outfit weakened him.
He then moved in to spiked water, then loaded gloves, then accused Wilder of cheating, then accused his co-trainer of being a traitor who betrayed him. A myriad of hodge-podge nonsense that Wilder fans have come to embrace and propagate.

No. He said he felt weak, so weak that even his costume felt heavy. Very different.

So, Fury beat Klitchkov and then ducked him and he beats Wilder and then ducks him. A farrago of lies, misrepresentations, lies, misinterpretation and outright hostility directed towards a guy who beat your knockout artist.
I bet I can pull dozens of fighters punching an opponent with an open punch and you’d claim their gloves were loaded.

The beauty of it all is, come October, you and all the other Wilder propaganda mouthpieces will disappear, like a smelly fart in the wind.

Fury probably knew that Klitschko would have knocked him out. Just like Wilder will do whenever Fury builds up the courage to fight him.

[thetruthteller]

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I could but I didn’t. If we are to believe the horseshït coming of Wilder fans then we believe Fury never tested positive for anything.
In fact, Fury is the cleanest boxer in the history of the sport.

Thank you for that comment. I can now ignore you completely. I'll see you after Fury gets KOed

[davefromvancouv]

The way a fighter gets back up off the canvas is far more important than they way he hits it, wouldn't you say? The way they go down can give concerns about whether they are all right, but when they get back up and you can see they're all right, it kind of makes the way they hit the canvas irrelevant.

As for the water and the proof: what need is there for proof when we can have instead your belief. Every question is answered and the case is closed. Thanks for clearing it up.

Not necessarily. Sometimes the fighter appears to be fine, only to collapse and die hours after the fight. Which is why most referees would have stopped the fight right when Fury was flattened as a precaution. Obviously Fury was able to continue but he was still lucky the fight wasn't stopped. In addition, he was also lucky he didn't sustain any other knock out blows after the fight continued.

[davefromvancouv]

And Hearn knows that you weakened wilder legs on February 22 2020 by giving him a blowie.

Can you get anymore biased

Hearn knows that Wilder is coming for Joshua after he knocks out Fury, so hopefully Joshua is up for the challenge and agrees to a 50/50 split and a 40/60 rematch after Wilder knocks HIM out.

[Monty Fisto]

Not necessarily. Sometimes the fighter appears to be fine, only to collapse and die hours after the fight. Which is why most referees would have stopped the fight right when Fury was flattened as a precaution. Obviously Fury was able to continue but he was still lucky the fight wasn't stopped. In addition, he was also lucky he didn't sustain any other knock out blows after the fight continued.

Sometimes, rarely, fighters do collapse and die hours after a fight. This is true. It does not change the fact, however, that when a fighter beats the count and shows the ref they are fine, it is extremely common for the ref to allow them to continue. You try to paint a perfectly normally circumstance (fighter beats the count, shows he is fine and continues) as being an unusual circumstance by asserting a totally unsubstantiated opinion by claiming this stuff about 9 out of 10 times, which unfortunately for you is simply nonesense.

There is no need for you to retrospectively try and re-officiate the fight as no-one but the shamelessly partisan had any problem with the way the professional and experienced ref did it at the time.

[davefromvancouv]

Sometimes, rarely, fighters do collapse and die hours after a fight. This is true. It does not change the fact, however, that when a fighter beats the count and shows the ref they are fine, it is extremely common for the ref to allow them to continue. You try to paint a perfectly normally circumstance (fighter beats the count, shows he is fine and continues) as being an unusual circumstance by asserting a totally unsubstantiated opinion by claiming this stuff about 9 out of 10 times, which unfortunately for you is simply nonesense.

There is no need for you to retrospectively try and re-officiate the fight as no-one but the shamelessly partisan had any problem with the way the professional and experienced ref did it at the time.

Fights have been stopped for much much less. In the first fight, Fury was hit with a right cross, followed by a left hook AS HE WAS FALLING. He lay dead for several seconds. At that point, in 9 out of 10 situations, Fury would have been counted out. As it turns out, it would have been premature, but that's the reality of the situation. He got lucky.

Now think about it. Wilder didn't hit him FLUSH and was fighting with an injured right arm. What happens when he's 100%? What happens when he connects with full force?

Maybe now you can understand why Fury has left the country and may never come back...