Comments Thread For: Hearn: Pay-Per-View Market Is Dwindling; Fighters Should Take The Guarantee Instead

[Bronx23]

This is the best question in the thread….I have mention this ad nauseam on this forum….YOU CANNOT BUILD STARS ON AN APP. Name me one star who Hearn has built on dayzin….

Seeing as how It’s only been in the boxing business for what? 2 years? 3? You can’t really fault him for that it takes time to build a star. Haneys probably the one you can say he’s in the process of building but to be honest I don’t think that necessarily is his main focus right now. He seems more focused on recruiting fighters and making big fights on the network

[sicko]

once AGAIN Eddie wants Canelo negotiations with PBC to FAIL and from a business standpoint I get it

PPV sucks FOR BOXING! Boxing took advantage of its fans and casuals and a lot of fans said enough is enough because far too many "Big Fights" in boxing did not deliver in the Ring to make fans comeback. Streaming Views are not great for boxing either which is why they don't release their numbers but if a APP is willing to completely overpay you then yeah take it

[Ricardi]

People do realize the last few Canelo fights we're also offered on PPV alongside 3 months of a DAZN subscription right ...?

[Corelone]

Canelo is the only fighter in the world making that money without having to run to Saudi Arabia to do it…that is who’s name isn’t Mayweather….

Canelo is getting that money from DAZN and using Eddys home fed produce to do it. 35 million for BJS, Eddy is bleeding money.

[Bronx23]

cool. The point I was making was that without Canelo, dayzin USA doesn’t sell. Hearn needs Canelo and you know that.

Well again Canelo is not signed to Hearn/Matchroom. Eddie Hearn does not own DAZN. He uses the platform for his promotion. So to answer your question yes DAZN may need Canelo, but less we forget they also have AJ who is promoted by Mr Hearn. So does Eddie need Canelo? I’d say no he doesn’t & he’s done just fine without him

[TMLT87]

IN BOXING it’s over saturated and dwindling which is what Hearn is referring to. UFC is a completely different market and audience. Not to mention, they have no real competition, all the biggest stars are under one banner unlike boxing where everyone is scattered across 3-4 networks/platforms

Dana White would have a stroke if the UFC did boxing PPV numbers.

I dont think PPV is oversaturated and dwindling in boxing either, Spence/Pac will do good numbers, Fury/Wilder 3 will do good numbers, if Canelo was back on traditional PPV he would too. People are still willing to buy the big fights, its just that they dont happen often enough, meanwhile theres been some baffling **** on PPV - Arreola/Ruiz, Tank/Barrios, that Charlo card, stuff that was obviously never going to do big numbers.

[HitmanTommy]

PPV dwindling bcs ppl like me getting it for free, well still cost me just over 50 cents

LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

[HitmanTommy]

Boxing needs this as a dying sport. But Mcgregor-Poirier just did nearly 2mil PPV buys and I hear they were doing great during peak Covid prior to that.

It's all about the marketing.

Boxing just doesn't do enough of it.

[HitmanTommy]

We’re now in the age where 200k PPV buys is now being considered good numbers when just only 3-4 years ago those where considered terrible numbers lol. PPV just seems so outdated to me. There used to be a time when PPVs were exclusive to the biggest stars/fights, now we got Andy Ruiz headling PPVs ffs lmao.

This doesn’t matter to me though I stream all the PPVs as well as the fights on DAZN & ESPN+ all for free. It’s 2021. Everything is online & it’s not hard to find. What people spend their money on is their business so if people are willing to fork over their money for a PPV I say keep making fights on PPV

So how do you explain UFC doing so well if it's outdated?

[Bronx23]

I dont think PPV is oversaturated and dwindling in boxing either, Spence/Pac will do good numbers, Fury/Wilder 3 will do good numbers, if Canelo was back on traditional PPV he would too. People are still willing to buy the big fights, its just that they dont happen often enough, meanwhile theres been some baffling **** on PPV - Arreola/Ruiz, Tank/Barrios, that Charlo card, stuff that was obviously never going to do big numbers.

it depends on what you consider to be good numbers. Nowadays fighters are getting more money and doing less buys

as I said before the boxing bar for good PPV numbers has lowered immensely over the last few years. I believe Pac Spence will sell well but it isn’t cracking a million & Fury Wilder 3 will do less than the rematch which supposedly did 800k.

the over saturated part comes in when u adds he pointless Ruiz, Tank and Charlo bros PPVs in the mix