Is it a KO? or Not?

[miron_lang]

10 secs have elapsed since the fighter went down. Is refs count slow?

Kindly explain.

JMM is down at :44


JMM is still down at :34




Please give valid arguments.

[street bully]

No it isn't. The referee is there counting in front of the fighter, so the fighter is fixated on the refs count.

[miron_lang]

No it isn't. The referee is there counting in front of the fighter, so the fighter is fixated on the refs count.

I see. so the ref can take 11 or more secs? is that an official rule?

[El Angel]

He might have started counting when his body hit the canvas, not his glove. He should have started counting when his glove touched though. That could be a reason.

[street bully]

I see. so the ref can take 11 or more secs? is that an official rule?

Fighters listen to the refs count for a reason. They do not have a timer buit inside them.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Is the ref Joke Cortez?

There's your answer.

[kadyo's]

The ref count is the official one pareng miron.

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[MANGLER]

No. I guess it coulda been, but no point arguin about it. As counted by the ref, JMM was ready in time. I never thought to question this.

[Sin City]

If I remember correctly... which I'm not sure if this is right since I haven't seen the fight in ages but Pacquiao wouldn't stay in his corner therefor he delayed the count right?
If a fighter isn't in a neutral corner then the ref doesn't start counting until he is.

[miron_lang]

Fighters listen to the refs count for a reason. They do not have a timer buit inside them.

Tarvers KO of Roy and KT over Judah looks very fast. I even think Roy could have beat the count. but that looks so much faster than this one.

what i want to know is how should the ref count it? a regular 10 secs can be a count of 8 or a count of 12 for a referee. whats the rule? its all on the ref's discretion?