Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Promotions Prez Slams WBA Over 'Super' Title Drama

[cjeagle1]

None of these titles hold the prestige they once had. Theres just so many now, the average joe or casual fan would never understand your answer if they asked you who the champ was. The WBC used to be held to the highest regard & look at what a joke it’s become in recent years. The WBA is slightly worse. The IBF is probably the only organization that is strict to its own rules but nobody cares about it and same does for the WBO nobody cares, most of the good fighters aren’t even ranked with the WBO

Manny doesn’t need titles and he hasn’t needed them for a while. He’s held every single one at one weight class or another. At this point it’s just an extra trinket. Him having or not having a belt doesn’t make this fight any more or any less intriguing

The lineal championship still has a very good reputation since it is not dependent upon some random organization creating titles for boxers. It is based on a fighter taking the championship from the previous titleholder in a sequential line of succession(with rules governing retirement by undefeated champions, etc.) that dated back to the day when there was only one champion per division.

By that criteria Pacquaio has the most impressive stat as the only fighter to have won lineal championships in 5 modern world divisions (flyweight, featherweight, super featherweight, light welterweight and welterweight).

He is also the third fighter in boxing history to win lineal world titles in three of the original eight weight divisions of boxing also known as the "glamour divisions" (flyweight, featherweight, and welterweight), joining the exclusive group of Bob Fitzsimmons and Henry Armstrong.

[Robbie Barrett]

Even boxingscene.com specifically mentions that Pac won lineal world championships in 5 different divisions.

• Manny Pacquiao is the first and only fighter in the history of boxing who is credited with lineal championships in five different weight classes^[48] (flyweight, featherweight, super featherweight, light welterweight and welterweight) by Cyber Boxing Zone,^[20][49][50]TBRB^[51][52][53] and BoxingScene.com.^[54][55] This has been reported by ESPN,^[56]CNN Sports Illustrated,^[57]The Ring,^[58]Yahoo! Sports^[59] and many boxing websites.^[60][61] He is also the third fighter in boxing history to win lineal world titles in three of the original eight weight divisions of boxing also known as the "glamour divisions" (flyweight, featherweight, and welterweight), joining the exclusive group of Bob Fitzsimmons and Henry Armstrong.^[62] Additionally, Pacquiao has held three Ring titles in three different weight classes (featherweight, super featherweight, and light welterweight).^[58]

If you where watching the press conference yesterday a lot those stats were listed there among which where the fact that he has beaten 22 current world titleholders. Even Mayweather mentions that stat as well where he still currently holds the record.

https://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/20...yweathers-mark

Floyd Mayweather reportedly holds the record of beating 23 opponents who have held a world title. But he expects to be overtaken soon.

Manny Pacquiao, 41, has defeated 22 fighters who have worn major belts, the last being his decision over Keith Thurman to win a welterweight title last July. Mayweather figures Pacquiao will beat at least two more titleholders.

“They say, ‘The greats must fight the greats,’” Mayweather told FightHype.com. “Well, just look in the history books. You’ll see nobody beat more world champs than Floyd Mayweather. Even with that being said, Pacquiao eventually probably would [break that record]. But guess what, Pacquiao was a professional before me.”

Mayweather (50-0, 27 KOs) turned pro in 1996, Pacquiao (62-7-2, 39 KOs) in 1995.

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As for drug testing, the fact remains that Pacquaio has been consistently tested throughout his career and as I said the quote was more than 100 times by the WBC. He has voluntarily signed up for the WBC Clean Drug Testing Program and has been tested many times by VADA including twice within the past week for the Spence fight. Since the Floyd Mayweather fight he is one of the most frequently tested fighters in boxing and has always tested negative. Haters likes deluding yourselves into making imaginary conspiracies about him still being on drugs without any proof whatsoever.

Since you mentioned him, Canelo on the other hand did test positive for clenbuterol twice in the past particularly before his fight against Golovkin in 2018 for which he received a 6 month ban from boxing.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...il-drugs-test/

You didn't answer one question. Which record keeper are you going with? Article writers aren't record keepers.

Rematches don't count as multiple opponents (2 wins against JMM/Bradley/Morales/Barrera doesn't count as 8 world champions), it's the same guy. He has much less world champions beat than Mayweather.

Who are the lineal champions he beat. You claimed he beat the man (lineal champ), name them.

Pacquiao has done VADA 4 times from the first time he did it in 10 fights. What good reason did he avoid it for the others?

Tell me the facts nuthugger with evidence. Not what some article writer claims. God damn casual.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Chased a lightweight? Where did you get that? Manny never made any pronouncement of fighting Ryan, Ryan made a scene of announcing he wants to fight Manny. You're not just a troll you're a racist, Manny deserves respect not a fake news.

I don't think you know what that word means. You probably shouldn't use it until you learn.

Meanwhile, it's been a long time since I've embarrassed someone here, so...

https://www.*************.com/headli...-garcia-first/

You recognize that guy, right?

Trainer for Mr. Dapidran?

Oops

[cjeagle1]

You didn't answer one question. Which record keeper are you going with? Article writers aren't record keepers.

Rematches don't count as multiple opponents (2 wins against JMM/Bradley/Morales/Barrera doesn't count as 8 world champions), it's the same guy. He has much less world champions beat than Mayweather.

Who are the lineal champions he beat. You claimed he beat the man (lineal champ), name them.

Pacquiao has done VADA 4 times from the first time he did it in 10 fights. What good reason did he avoid it for the others?

Tell me the facts nuthugger with evidence. Not what some article writer claims. God damn casual.

I already listed CBZ, TBRB, Boxingscene.com as the source for his 5 lineal weight division championships which were subsequently reported by ESPN, The Ring, Yahoo Sports, and many other boxing websites.

Those are respected boxing sources not casual haters and deniers like you. I am done being questioned by haters like you who won't even acknowledged those statistics as facts or evidence. Just live in your own deluded world.

[Robbie Barrett]

I already listed CBZ, TBRB, Boxingscene.com as the source for his 5 lineal weight division championships which were subsequently reported by ESPN, The Ring, Yahoo Sports, and many other boxing websites.

Those are respected boxing sources not casual haters and deniers like you. I am done being questioned by haters like you who won't even acknowledged those statistics as facts or evidence. Just live in your own deluded world.

That's not a source. That's multiple sources cherry picked to make it 5, when neither the ring or cbz has him down as 5 on their records. I'll make the question simpler for you. Which record keeper has him down as 5x lineal on their records? A article writer claiming he's 5x lineal doesn't make it so.

You've backed up nothing you claimed. b..b...but an article writer said..........

Run along casual, just repeating what you hear.

[VashDBasher]

Is the is guy really Pacman promotion chairman? He is so unprofessional sometimes…. Anyways in regards to the WBA they are definitely terrible, can’t figure out who is worse, them or the WBC..

Yeah. Gibbons is a tool and has made some unprofessional remarks in the past that not only make me question his integrity as a promoter, but as a person too.

[tokon]

A fair point from Mr Gibbons, but I don't think Manny cares about the titles that much now.

He's interested in taking on a big name and new young star in Spence, and see if he can get another big win before he retires.

Yes, just make these kinds of fights and ignore the self-appointed "sanctioning bodies". Don't pay their "fees"

[Pennstate110]

I already listed CBZ, TBRB, Boxingscene.com as the source for his 5 lineal weight division championships which were subsequently reported by ESPN, The Ring, Yahoo Sports, and many other boxing websites.

Those are respected boxing sources not casual haters and deniers like you. I am done being questioned by haters like you who won't even acknowledged those statistics as facts or evidence. Just live in your own deluded world.

Rest assured you schooled him with facts and sources while he proved you nothing but his very low intellect he received from the hood. Idiots like him can't comprehend facts ,they just keep twisting things. Nice job bro, another one bites the dust. Their too easy I know, I've schooled a couple (for the first time they were schooled because they probably all don't have high school diplomas) on here jab jab boom, revelated, Oregonian. I'm not a fan of Mayweather I think he's a joke and you'll never catch me on any of his articles ranting about him. Yet these guys hate Pacquiao but will run to all of his articles. Secretly they're HUGE fans. So don't worry , they won't say it because of pride, but just being here they agree with everything you're saying lol like I said before they have such a low IQ they don't even realize how dumb they look. Stay on Pacquiao content "homies" you're showing interest in the one and only GOAT of boxing hahaha gotta love em

[harry-greb]

At the end of the day, I consider the most important title in boxing is the lineal title where you must defeat the previous titleholder in a clear line of succession in order to become champion, not some alphabet title that some random organization is willing to give you.

This is how champions were determined when there weren't so many sanctioning bodies back in the day and holds particular relevance today in this age of multiple world boxing sanctioning organizations.

Pacquaio holds the record for most lineal titles in different weight divisions today with 5.

Finally someone who speaks the truth. Lineal title is all that matters. Tbrb. springs toledo knows

[harry-greb]

Yeah. Gibbons is a tool and has made some unprofessional remarks in the past that not only make me question his integrity as a promoter, but as a person too.

He's an out and out cowboy. He's done plenty of shady stuff in the past.