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  • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    That's some of the lamest shit I've ever heard. Learn to pick up a book and read it sometime! If you were born non-white then you shall remain non-white.

    It doesn't matter how educated you are, famous you are, rich you are or even marry and live in the same neighborhood as the dominant culture; You shall always stand out and never be able to assimilate within that culture.

    American is the land of opportunity. So, I wasn't speaking about the economic freedoms. I was referring to the political freedoms. Many migrants have come to Britain and the U.S. and became highly economically successful. Yet they are still not part of the dominant culture and shall never be.
    Nonsense…

    Again easier to blame “the system” than take accountability. I lived through an era where racism was prominent, nowadays it’s irrelevant aside from a very small minority who are just racist losers anyway. People like you almost want to cause division cause you want to seem edgy or “woke”. In the modern world all races have equal freedoms, rights and opportunities, I’m living proof of that myself.

    What freedoms are non-whites not afforded? What racial prejudice have you ever faced in your life to make you form such a negative perspective? You’re speaking as if it’s the 70’s.

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    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

      Are you referring to the people who built America? What do you think your people lives would be if not for those people who built this great nation of ours?
      Come on man. Cut the BS. Europe built many independent civilizations. Africa did not. Just how it was. The point of my comment was to say that not every interaction between blacks and whites has been negative for blacks. In fact many interactions have largely been very beneficial as far current quality of life goes for their descendants, vs the alternative. Not a perfect ride at all, but overall I think it's hard to argue their descendants would be in a better place had that interaction not taken place.

      It's good to be proud of who are you and your people, but none of us should gloss things up enough to the point where what we are saying doesn't even make a bit of sense.

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      • I just dont get how wilder will be able to float like a butterfly wearing that costume? I mean is it even possible, float like a lead weight maybe

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        • I get it, Mark Breland spiked Wilder's drink then slipped Fury the covid. The old double reverse.

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          • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

            Nonsense…

            Again easier to blame “the system” than take accountability. I lived through an era where racism was prominent, nowadays it’s irrelevant aside from a very small minority who are just racist losers anyway. People like you almost want to cause division cause you want to seem edgy or “woke”. In the modern world all races have equal freedoms, rights and opportunities, I’m living proof of that myself.

            What freedoms are non-whites not afforded? What racial prejudice have you ever faced in your life to make you form such a negative perspective? You’re speaking as if it’s the 70’s.
            Once again, learn to pick up a book and read it sometime because you seem so ignorant and naive in which the world we live in. It's so easy and convenient for a man of no color to say that racism no longer exists but asks the ones who are actually experiencing it.

            Like the people who most closely resemble George Floyd. Hell even in the U.K. The African and Caribbean community in Great Britain had to stand in solidarity at the Black Lives Matter movement in which Anthony Joshua attended; To pronounce that racism is even prevalent in the U.K.

            Perhaps, it would do you good to attend some type of multiculturalism class at your local community college or something. Then perhaps you will become more enlightened, informed and more empathetic towards people who don't closely resemble you.

            I know that you are only basing your conclusions on your worldview; Which helps shapes and forms our values. That is certainly nothing wrong with that because if I lived as you have lived my world view and ideology would probably be very similar to yours.

            However and at the same time, we both have a moral obligation to be intelligent. So it won't hurt to try and expand the way we all see the world through other cultures' lenses from time to time.

            This was just only some food for thought.

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            • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

              Come on man. Cut the BS. Europe built many independent civilizations. Africa did not. Just how it was. The point of my comment was to say that not every interaction between blacks and whites has been negative for blacks. In fact many interactions have largely been very beneficial as far current quality of life goes for their descendants, vs the alternative. Not a perfect ride at all, but overall I think it's hard to argue their descendants would be in a better place had that interaction not taken place.

              It's good to be proud of who are you and your people, but none of us should gloss things up enough to the point where what we are saying doesn't even make a bit of sense.
              I agree. It's true. This generation of blacks have it a lot better than previous ones because their ancestors built this country. At the same time you must be willing to tally up the very high cost it took for them just to get here though.

              Just look at all of the innocent blood and lives that was shed in the process. However, it took a very strong will, determination, motivation, patience, persistence and perseverance of spirit just for these people to overcome all of that and still be here.

              Nothing was given to them. They worked harder than any other group in this country but has never been given the justice they deserved nor the 40 acres and the mule that Abraham Lincoln had promised them.

              Now I don't want to get into a dialogue as far as Western History is concerned. However, judging by your first paragraph on the topic tells me all I need to know just how uninformed, ignorant and uneducated you are on the subject.

              I think may recommend some suggested reading for you on this subject. I have many books and authors I would like to share with you on this very subject which could help enlighten you.

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              • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                Once again, learn to pick up a book and read it sometime because you seem so ignorant and naive in which the world we live in. It's so easy and convenient for a man of no color to say that racism no longer exists but asks the ones who are actually experiencing it.

                Like the people who most closely resemble George Floyd. Hell even in the U.K. The African and Caribbean community in Great Britain had to stand in solidarity at the Black Lives Matter movement in which Anthony Joshua attended; To pronounce that racism is even prevalent in the U.K.

                Perhaps, it would do you good to attend some type of multiculturalism class at your local community college or something. Then perhaps you will become more enlightened, informed and more empathetic towards people who don't closely resemble you.

                I know that you are only basing your conclusions on your worldview; Which helps shapes and forms our values. That is certainly nothing wrong with that because if I lived as you have lived my world view and ideology would probably be very similar to yours.

                However and at the same time, we both have a moral obligation to be intelligent. So it won't hurt to try and expand the way we all see the world through other cultures' lenses from time to time.

                This was just only some food for thought.
                STFU man. I’m f***ing mixed race.

                I ain’t one to brag about sh** like this but I’m probably far more educated than you too. I was literally a teacher for 8 years.

                It’s terrible what happened to George Floyd but he was a multiple time offender and Joshua is a guy who’s promoted racial superiority and discrimination which is completely contradictory for what people where protesting for. They aren’t f***ing role models. MLK, Ali, Douglass, Parks etc all stood for real and meaningful issues and I respect the hell out of them for that. Guys like AJ and Wilder aren’t standing up for sh**. AJ went to a f***ing boarding school and grew up in Hertfordshire, he was a privileged kid.

                Google Toxteth race riots in the early 80’s. I grew up in that era filled with racial tension. Not this snowflake era where kids act all triggered despite not experiencing f*** all. Don’t duck the question either. What racial discrimination have YOU experienced to base this opinion on?

                In some third world countries where racism actually is still prevalent. You’d get killed for looking different, speaking different etc. In a county like the USA you are afforded equal rights and you should be grateful to be living in a place like that, which is governed based on multi-cultural principles. I’m massively grateful that I was brought up in a country like the UK where I was given education opportunities, health care, social security, universal suffrage etc etc. What exactly are you unhappy with?

                You clearly have no perspective of the wider world, if you think America, the UK etc are still highly racist countries. They’re clearly and that’s supported by both statistical data and recent social studies. As I keep asking what opportunities aren’t afforded to people of colour like ourselves? My race never held me back in any element of my life.
                Boxing-1013 Boxing-1013 likes this.

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                • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  I agree. It's true. This generation of blacks have it a lot better than previous ones because their ancestors built this country. At the same time you must be willing to tally up the very high cost it took for them just to get here though.

                  Just look at all of the innocent blood and lives that was shed in the process. However, it took a very strong will, determination, motivation, patience, persistence and perseverance of spirit just for these people to overcome all of that and still be here.

                  Nothing was given to them. They worked harder than any other group in this country but has never been given the justice they deserved nor the 40 acres and the mule that Abraham Lincoln had promised them.

                  Now I don't want to get into a dialogue as far as Western History is concerned. However, judging by your first paragraph on the topic tells me all I need to know just how uninformed, ignorant and uneducated you are on the subject.

                  I think may recommend some suggested reading for you on this subject. I have many books and authors I would like to share with you on this very subject which could help enlighten you.
                  If you're looking for a boogeyman and someone to blame behind every corner, you will find one. I wish ya well man. Peace.

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                  • Originally posted by breeto80 View Post

                    There's something definitely wrong with this idiot Wilder. I seen long before his post Fury 2'meltdown. The guy is really really mentally deranged. Fighting a social media troll in his gym , trying to intimidate media etc. He's a typical bully trying to come across as a monster. He's a clown, he's a racist. He's a pathetic puke. He talks publicly about killing somebody , anybody , in the ring. I hope and pray he dies in the ring. He's a danger to mankind.
                    I don't agree with your remark about hoping he dies in the ring, no one should lose their life in the ring.
                    Other than that I virtually agree with everything else that you stated about Deontay Wilder.
                    I noticed a few years back that he had a lack of emotional control, during his interviews.
                    It 's unfortunate that he has no moral compass, because he is explosive in the ring.
                    As far as I'm concerned boxing would be better off without villainous characters like Wilder, Fury, Teofimo,
                    Romero, and steroid cheats Pascal, Canelo, etc,

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                    • Glad King Wilder is taking a stand against the crap Black folk are subject to in this racist country.

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