Errol Spence is the most overrated boxer today

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #51
    Originally posted by hectari


    the thing with Spence is he he might be slow with no head movement but he is good at keeping distance, pacquiao feasts on guys like spence who are basic woth no head movement but the only problem is Spence will not let Manny close the gap, and will counter him. if Spence tries to stand in the pocket with Pac than he is ****ed, but I doubt he is dumb enough to do that.
    I think he might do the opposite

    He might try to go at pac

    Which gives pac a chance imo

    Say what u want about pac, he knows how to exchange

    if spence goes at him, he might get a surprise coming to him

    If I was sPence, I'd box from long range in the beginning

    Then mid to late rounds when pac tires then put pressure on pac to fight and get no rest

    Thats how he'll get a pac ko

    If he goes at pac hard early when pac is still fresh, pac will win those exchanges

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    • Keysandboxing
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      #52
      Originally posted by Curt Henning

      bud/spence will happen(provided both continue to win and remain unbeaten)...it a power play....haymon is going to exhaust all good/inhouse options he can and try to make spence as big and as successful as he can so they can bend bud over the table when it comes time to negotiate....add more belts....add more successful ppvs.....its a power play between haymon and top rank

      thats why u heard floyd say what he did about tank....because tanks people know whats going and that arum will not play ball with tank vs teo or tank vs loma when arum can rematch them inhouse or take teo to 140......these guys never wanna work together unless they have to.......if arum had haymons 147 roster and haymon had bud arum would be doing the same thing...so hes going to do it at 130-140 with tank.....when haymon is done with this for spence he will make the fight.....but buds prob not going to love the terms
      D@mn well said

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      • Michael1437
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        #53
        Originally posted by Curt Henning

        bud/spence will happen(provided both continue to win and remain unbeaten)...it a power play....haymon is going to exhaust all good/inhouse options he can and try to make spence as big and as successful as he can so they can bend bud over the table when it comes time to negotiate....add more belts....add more successful ppvs.....its a power play between haymon and top rank

        thats why u heard floyd say what he did about tank....because tanks people know whats going and that arum will not play ball with tank vs teo or tank vs loma when arum can rematch them inhouse or take teo to 140......these guys never wanna work together unless they have to.......if arum had haymons 147 roster and haymon had bud arum would be doing the same thing...so hes going to do it at 130-140 with tank.....when haymon is done with this for spence he will make the fight.....but buds prob not going to love the terms
        I hope you're right, if it does happen though who do you got? I really like Spence, but when Crawford fights, dude seems unstoppable. Anyone can say what they want about Floyd, but did is a serious business man and knows how to generate money.

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        • Curt Henning
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          #54
          Originally posted by Michael1437

          I hope you're right, if it does happen though who do you got? I really like Spence, but when Crawford fights, dude seems unstoppable. Anyone can say what they want about Floyd, but did is a serious business man and knows how to generate money.
          i think its a 50/50 fight.....id be pulling for spence as im more of fan of his than bud but i like both guys...and think its a real 50/50....

          as far as floyd....well...floyd may be tanks "promoter" and all that...but haymon really calls the shots imo....hes the one that really knows how to move the fighter.....floyds involved but i think hes more of a mouthpiece since haymon doesnt talk to the press...and floyd lending his name to tank doesnt hurt tanks profile....but its haymon really running tank and haymon has shown he knows what hes doing

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            #55
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

            I think he might do the opposite

            He might try to go at pac

            Which gives pac a chance imo

            Say what u want about pac, he knows how to exchange

            if spence goes at him, he might get a surprise coming to him

            If I was sPence, I'd box from long range in the beginning

            Then mid to late rounds when pac tires then put pressure on pac to fight and get no rest

            Thats how he'll get a pac ko

            If he goes at pac hard early when pac is still fresh, pac will win those exchanges
            You think Pac is gonna vs less able to use some of his skills/angles vs a southpaw?

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            • hugh grant
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              #56
              Originally posted by KTFOKING

              According to Fortune, Spence is not the same fighter post-accident and has lost a lot with his legs and ability to take a shot. Because of this statement by Pacquiao's own team, I cannot give credit to him if he is to win this fight. They are clearly picking on a wounded duck that they wanted no part of when he was HEALTHY and on top of his game after the Mikey fight. Sorry, I don't make the rules, I just go along with them!
              This post is so wrong. Just because team Pac think they see weakness they think they can.exploit, don't mean to say there are actual weaknesses. Doesn't mean to say bud sees those weaknesses team Pac see.
              Even with supposed weaknesses, Pac still has to overcome spence strengths, because believe it or not spence does have strengths. It's a testament to Pac s confidence he thinks he can capitalise on it, so what's all this won't give Pac credit nonsense? Bud don't see any weaknesses with spence and that's why it's pac stepping up.
              You sure your a fan of boxing?​​​

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                #57
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                This post is so wrong. Just because team Pac think they see weakness they think they can.exploit, don't mean to say there are actual weaknesses. Doesn't mean to say bud sees those weaknesses team Pac see.
                Even with supposed weaknesses, Pac still has to overcome spence strengths, because believe it or not spence does have strengths. It's a testament to Pac s confidence he thinks he can capitalise on it, so what's all this won't give Pac credit nonsense? Bud don't see any weaknesses with spence and that's why it's pac stepping up.
                You sure your a fan of boxing?​​​
                Take this up with Pacquiao and his team, I'm not the one that made those comments...But they were made. They see a broken man who is the same fighter post-accident. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong in that? Aren't they the professionals here? We are just fans, but those guys do this for a living.

                So if Fortune thinks Spence has weaker legs and can't take shots as well and is not the same fighter anymore? Then I have to believe that.

                Are you saying Fortune is wrong and lying here?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING

                  Take this up with Pacquiao and his team, I'm not the one that made those comments...But they were made. They see a broken man who is the same fighter post-accident. Who am I to tell them that they are wrong in that? Aren't they the professionals here? We are just fans, but those guys do this for a living.

                  So if Fortune thinks Spence has weaker legs and can't take shots as well and is not the same fighter anymore? Then I have to believe that.

                  Are you saying Fortune is wrong and lying here?
                  Nobody cares. This weak spence bud didn't fancy it. Pac did and we are the winners we get to see a fight.

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                  • Madison Boxing
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                    #59
                    if he wasnt american he wouldnt be in the p4p top 10. not really done anything of note, best win was coming down 2 weight classes after having his eye socket broke, i didnt think he beat porter

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                    • hectari
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                      I think he might do the opposite

                      He might try to go at pac

                      Which gives pac a chance imo

                      Say what u want about pac, he knows how to exchange

                      if spence goes at him, he might get a surprise coming to him

                      If I was sPence, I'd box from long range in the beginning

                      Then mid to late rounds when pac tires then put pressure on pac to fight and get no rest

                      Thats how he'll get a pac ko

                      If he goes at pac hard early when pac is still fresh, pac will win those exchanges
                      When has spence ever started early? He wont do that he waits a while until he tires you and the. Picks you apart.

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