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  • #61
    Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
    if he wasnt american he wouldnt be in the p4p top 10. not really done anything of note, best win was coming down 2 weight classes after having his eye socket broke, i didnt think he beat porter
    Oh please wasn't guerrerro bumped into top ten before floyd fought him. Nel o was too 10 on basis of beating trout

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

      i think its a 50/50 fight.....id be pulling for spence as im more of fan of his than bud but i like both guys...and think its a real 50/50....

      as far as floyd....well...floyd may be tanks "promoter" and all that...but haymon really calls the shots imo....hes the one that really knows how to move the fighter.....floyds involved but i think hes more of a mouthpiece since haymon doesnt talk to the press...and floyd lending his name to tank doesnt hurt tanks profile....but its haymon really running tank and haymon has shown he knows what hes doing
      I am more of a Spence fan as well, I would definitely be pulling for him, but I think you're right, it's 50/50, I can't wait to see Spence vs PacMan live, gonna be a fun event. Floyd just knows what it takes to bring in the big bucks, I remember when he was with Arum and left and now look at him, I'm not a fan of his, but I will give the dude credit, he knows people will watch no matter what he does and he's right, I think Haymon calls the shots, but I think he listens to Floyd about what will make money

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Michael1437 View Post

        I am more of a Spence fan as well, I would definitely be pulling for him, but I think you're right, it's 50/50, I can't wait to see Spence vs PacMan live, gonna be a fun event. Floyd just knows what it takes to bring in the big bucks, I remember when he was with Arum and left and now look at him, I'm not a fan of his, but I will give the dude credit, he knows people will watch no matter what he does and he's right, I think Haymon calls the shots, but I think he listens to Floyd about what will make money
        thats awesome that youre going! i saw pac fight live twice in 09...went out for the hatton and cotto fights(still have my tix stubs)....was a blast...atmosphere was amazing both times

        ive always loved floyd...especially when he turned into "money"....i loved watching him get under peoples skin and knowing the whole time he was still training like he was broke and every opponent, even if he knew was a level or several below him, was trying to take money off his plate

        anyways.....have a blast!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Clegg View Post

          You think Pac is gonna vs less able to use some of his skills/angles vs a southpaw?
          Nah

          Manny doesn't have a conventional style and is use to weird angles anyway

          The southpaw style actually might bother Spence more

          Hes more upright and conventional and doesnt move as well

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hectari View Post
            When has spence ever started early? He wont do that he waits a while until he tires you and the. Picks you apart.
            Might be excited

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            • #66
              hes just not significantly great at alot but good enough in all areas, definitely not overrated just someone boxing fans are excited to see fight

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              • #67
                Errol Spence is the most overrated boxer today


                Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
                Couldn't knock out little chubby Mikey Garcia.

                Couldn't make a dent in Shawn Porter and almost lost to him.

                Labored down the stretch vs Danny Garcia. If you actually watched the fight, Garcia was wacking Spence in the late rounds,. Spence had zero stamina and was running.

                Dude throws some basic ass combinations and telegraphs everything. That's why he can't get any knockouts lately. Throws the same punches.

                How embarassing would it be for a 42 year old man with a 2 year layoff were to beat you.

                If he can't beat Pacquiao, his ass needs to hang it up.
                So by your 'logic' if Spence is the most overrated boxer today but he beats Packy then what does that make Packy? You need to keep away from those street corner durgs.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by famicommander View Post
                  Demetrius Andrade has fought zero world champions in 30 professional fights and yet he walks around calling himself a two division champion.

                  Seven of Spence's most recent nine opponents were world champions:
                  Chris Algieri (former champion)
                  Leonard Bundu (title eliminator)
                  Kell Brook (reigning champion)
                  Lamont Peterson (2X champ at 140, "Regular" champ at 147)
                  Carlos Ocambo (mandatory)
                  Mikey Garcia (four division world champion)
                  Shawn Porter (2X and reigning champion, unification fight)
                  Danny Garcia (2 division champion)
                  Manny Pacquiao (7 division champion)

                  spoon going to blow a gasket you subtracted out mannys catchweight 8th title

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
                    I mean he's much more proven then Crawford on paper at 147 or anyone not Manny Pacquiao. He has severely platued, as many PBC fighters do. I expected him to stop Porter or at least give a better performance than that.
                    everyone looks bad against porter and he aint being stopped anytime soon. it would take an elite welter like a thomas hearns or something before i could see porter getting stopped

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                    • #70
                      Anything the OP says, the opposite goes. Always.

                      Spence is a top, top fighter. Elite.

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