should boxers be taking the knee before fights?

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rockin'

    In what country do blacks prosper more? You don't like the Constitution than get the F outta here. Many of your people still live in mud huts, why don't you move there and then tell me what you think.

    Again, In what country do blacks prosper more? ...........Rockin'
    God **** yourself.

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    • Zaroku
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      #52
      Respect to you my friend!

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      • Nash out
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        #53
        Originally posted by Madison boxing

        they could take the knee during the anthems
        I wish they would get rid of national anthems. Completely not needed and I always turn the channel over when they are on. Nash out - TBE.

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        • Willie Pep 229
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          #54
          Originally posted by Quercusalba

          Are you suggesting fighters who are not black Americans should be taking a knee? If so, which ethnicities and during which anthems?

          We need to face the fact that there are many active fighters of many different ethnicities, and some of these ethnicities have had it far, far worse in the last 155 years than black Americans.

          Take for example Ukrainian fighters. Educate yourself about the Holodomor --- 1932-1933 --- in Ukraine and tell me if anything was ever that bad for anyone in the United States from that time period to the present. Did any black Southerners during Jim Crow have to eat their own children?

          How about Armenian fighters. Familiarize yourself with the Armenian Genocide, please.

          We could talk about Filipino boxers. These are people who were abused and marginalized by the Spanish for almost 400 years, then treated scarcely better by the Americans, followed by horrendous atrocities inflicted upon them by the Japanese.

          So I ask, do you think these people of horribly abused ethnicities should be taking a knee for black Americans in 2021? Black Americans who in 2021 routinely become multi-millionaires and even billionaires? Black Americans who become mayors, top cops, fire chiefs, generals, entertainment moguls, supreme court justices, cabinet members, and president?

          I certainly could be wrong, but some people from the places I have mentioned, plus fighters from other counties (China, Vietnam, Kazakhstan, etc.) might just scoff at the perceived, exaggerated, and falsely represented 'hardships' of black Americans.

          So again, who, why, when, and in solidarity with what?
          I find your statements to be profound and mean not for that to be taken as cheeky.

          Although I am, as of late (the past 20 years now), su****ious of all political rants - while your points are powerful and well stated I need to hear that you hold the Anerican Christian to the same standard.

          American Christians have suffered almost not at all when compared to the African experience in America, yet as of late we have been inundated with American Christians claiming themselves victims of religious persecution (for issues a reasonable man would say are trivial reasons.)

          Considering your statements above I believe I don't need to explain to you what real religious persecution looks like around the world, you know.

          So I need to ask, do you hold these absurd American Christian compliants of persecution to be as offensive/duplicitous?

          I will say straight out I am wondering if you are an insightful man or just another Fox News indoctrinated drone.

          Of course you have no obligation to reply to me but your words did move me and made me think, but now I must wonder if I can trust you.

          Sorry it's not your fault that I must think this way.
          Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-08-2021, 09:46 PM.

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          • War Room
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            #55
            Originally posted by Madison boxing
            we've seen this in other sports to show solidarity but not so much in boxing, why is this?
            He naw, fcuk that shet. They know the hood is the hood. Keep this shet out of the boxing forum and in the lounge ya lily livered daft cvnt.

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #56
              Originally posted by Madison boxing

              to show solidarity in the fight against racism, and to commemorate the life and times of George Floyd.
              You are a well known racist on here over the years, loving everything white, including bums, and hating on everything African American boxers do. You were banned many times for racism. I can dig your past posts, but that's not what I want to address now.

              I want to clarify your thread. Many people misunderstood your true intention. They didn't know you meant only African American boxers. You were making a joke of the whole thing.
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 07-08-2021, 10:14 PM.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #57
                Imagine threatening to murder your opponent then bending the knee before the fight even starts

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #58
                  People only take knees when the camera is rolling so why not.

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by KillaMane26
                    Imagine threatening to murder your opponent then bending the knee before the fight even starts
                    ''I'm sorry. I didn't mean to kill your husband/bro by repeatedly hitting him as hard as I can on his head.''

                    I don't see the difference.

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                    • Quercusalba
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                      I find your statements to be profound and mean not for that to be taken as cheeky.

                      Although I am, as of late (the past 20 years now), su****ious of all political rants - while your points are powerful and well stated I need to hear that you hold the Anerican Christian to the same standard.

                      American Christians have suffered almost not at all when compared to the African experience in America, yet as of late we have been inundated with American Christians claiming themselves victims of religious persecution (for issues a reasonable man would say are trivial reasons.)

                      Considering your statements above I believe I don't need to explain to you what real religious persecution looks like around the world, you know.

                      So I need to ask, do you hold these absurd American Christian compliants of persecution to be as offensive/duplicitous?

                      I will say straight out I am wondering if you are an insightful man or just another Fox News indoctrinated drone.

                      Of course you have no obligation to reply to me but your words did move me and made me think, but now I must wonder if I can trust you.

                      Sorry it's not your fault that I must think this way.
                      Hello Sir:

                      I think a Christian here in the United States claiming to be a victim of persecution would be making a significant overstatement. Persecution is much too strong a word. From the inception of the U.S.A. until the present, the amount of power and wealth enjoyed by Christians in general, and Episcopalians and Presbyterians in particular has been significant. As an aside, did you know there has never been a Lutheran president? I mean, the last president not to claim membership in a church was Abraham Lincoln, yet he was still a deeply Christian man, particularly in his last several years.

                      Now, do I think Christians (or ******s, ***s, Hindus, Buddhists) have a legitimate gripe with the American government for pressuring them to close their houses of worship during the pandemic? Yes, I do. I think such a move was a profound government overreach and probably unconstitutional, but it was temporary and again persecution is much too strong a word for my taste. Liquor stores in my locale were deemed essential, but houses of worship were not. Don't get me wrong, booze is my religion, but certainly not everyone else's.

                      Christians in the scholarly fields, particularly those in academia at big public universities (or even small, very left, ******* arts schools) probably have some legitimate complaints about the marginalization of Christianity and its pertinence to the understanding of history, sociology, philosophy, literature, etc., but these issues are academic. Academic in the sense they have no practical relevance.

                      Is it more socially acceptable to punch down on Christians, particularly white Christians, here in America than it is to punch down on any other combination of race/ethnicity/religion? Yes it is. Is it persecution? No, it is not.

                      Persecution is what ***ish people have been suffering through since 70 AD, or even before, for example.

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