should boxers be taking the knee before fights?

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  • PunchMeIDareYou
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    #41
    Originally posted by Madison boxing

    to show solidarity in the fight against racism, and to commemorate the life and times of George Floyd.
    Will that include honoring the pregnant woman Floyd held at gunpoint?

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    • GrandpaBernard
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      #42
      absolutely not

      why should a fighter born raised and living in another country take a knee for something that doesn't involve him

      "racism" as you know it is a is a phenomenon in white western nations

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      • CornerCutman
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        #43
        Should they be? Eh, I'd rather not simply because boxing is an escape for me. But can they? Sure, great thing about freedom is it isn't always pretty and if they really want to I won't stop them.

        I tend to agree with the folks who mentioned focus, though. All that outside stuff is best left outside the ring, for the fighter's sake, not so much the audience.

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        • Quercusalba
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          #44
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          we've seen this in other sports to show solidarity but not so much in boxing, why is this?
          Are you suggesting fighters who are not black Americans should be taking a knee? If so, which ethnicities and during which anthems?

          We need to face the fact that there are many active fighters of many different ethnicities, and some of these ethnicities have had it far, far worse in the last 155 years than black Americans.

          Take for example Ukrainian fighters. Educate yourself about the Holodomor --- 1932-1933 --- in Ukraine and tell me if anything was ever that bad for anyone in the United States from that time period to the present. Did any black Southerners during Jim Crow have to eat their own children?

          How about Armenian fighters. Familiarize yourself with the Armenian Genocide, please.

          We could talk about Filipino boxers. These are people who were abused and marginalized by the Spanish for almost 400 years, then treated scarcely better by the Americans, followed by horrendous atrocities inflicted upon them by the Japanese.

          So I ask, do you think these people of horribly abused ethnicities should be taking a knee for black Americans in 2021? Black Americans who in 2021 routinely become multi-millionaires and even billionaires? Black Americans who become mayors, top cops, fire chiefs, generals, entertainment moguls, supreme court justices, cabinet members, and president?

          I certainly could be wrong, but some people from the places I have mentioned, plus fighters from other counties (China, Vietnam, Kazakhstan, etc.) might just scoff at the perceived, exaggerated, and falsely represented 'hardships' of black Americans.

          So again, who, why, when, and in solidarity with what?

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #45
            Originally posted by Split Decision

            Says he doesnt want politics in boxing then posts about politics lmao gr8 stuff m8
            I know mate.

            I let myself get drawn in. My bad…

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #46
              Originally posted by Willy Wanker

              I think fighters of different races/ethnicities punching the sht out of each other, then shaking hands and hugging after the fight is already a powerful enough statement in the fight against racism.

              That's a real gesture, not a fake one like taking a knee.
              Exactly this…….

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #47
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

                You live in fantasy.
                What?

                So you don’t believe race relations have massively improved in the last 50 years?

                Another victim of triggery right here…

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                • Mike D
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                  #48
                  At my office we have a daily morning motivational huddle. You know, to get the day started and to light a fire under us so we can make mad sales and just slay those quarterly numbers.

                  I take this opportunity to take a knee. Right there. In the middle of the huddle. Everyone was taking the knee back when the George Floyd thing was going on but now I'm the only one left. It makes things a little awkward but I shall continue to kneel on in the name of social justice.

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #49
                    I've heard Yusaf mack takes a knee before and after fights.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

                      A lot of garbage here. Doesn't represent the reality on the ground. There's no true equality. Screw the whiteman's constitution.
                      In what country do blacks prosper more? You don't like the Constitution than get the F outta here. Many of your people still live in mud huts, why don't you move there and then tell me what you think.

                      Again, In what country do blacks prosper more? ...........Rockin'

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