Who proved superior skill over Marquez, PAC or FLOYD?

[hugh grant]

Ok we understand you pedestalize mediocrity, but you didn't answer the question of what is so special about Marquez at ww other than him losing to Manny 2x beating him 1x and Floyd needing to drag him up two weight classes and needing every conceivable advantage to get a lopsided points win on him.

I doubt if Juan Marquez cracks top 20 all time at ww and you talking like Floyd did some extraordinary s##t or pulled off some major upset.

Whats so special about it is Floyd beat a common opponent more convincingly and it shocks Floyd fans! But they've got all excuses under sun how PAC beat Hatton, cotto and dlh more convincingly

[djtmal]

Whats so special about it is Floyd beat a common opponent more convincingly and it shocks Floyd fans! But they've got all excuses under sun how PAC beat Hatton, cotto and dlh more convincingly

He beat the brakes off Oscar and sent him into retirement. The excuse was Oscar was weight drained, but Manny proved himself special enough to do that. I could not imagine Marquez, being able to beat the brakes off any version of Oscar, the way Manny did, but these Floyd boys seem to pedestalize Marquez like he was Duran or somebody.

[thabanga510]

Floyd made Marquez look like he did not belong in a boxing ring with anyone.

[hugh grant]

He beat the brakes off Oscar and sent him into retirement. The excuse was Oscar was weight drained, but Manny proved himself special enough to do that. I could not imagine Marquez, being able to beat the brakes off any version of Oscar, the way Manny did, but these Floyd boys seem to pedestalize Marquez like he was Duran or somebody.

Yes, they shouldn't put jmm on too high a pedestal, because Pac should have 3 wins over jmm if not scorecard error so how good must Pac be? I doubt Floyd could beat any version of dlh and hatton like Pac did also. Floyd s not stopping any dlh in 7 rounds or any version of Hatton in 2 rounds. So however you see it Pac s wins over dlh and hatton are better than Floyd's win over them

[Left Hook Tua]

But Floyd does have defeats according to boxing fans who saw Floyd fight. Floyd is harder to hit and has a different approach to fighting but isn't more skilled, just a different skill set, but he hasn't got more ability than PAC. Look at what jmm says about best he's fought. Jmm clearly thinks PACs got more ability and the proof and evidence is in the superior resume. Just like Hopkins over calzaghe

A lot of these guys don't seem to understand the more you punch, the more you get hit

When floyd opens up, he gets hit too.

Look at McGregor. If floyd boxed like normal, McGregor wouldn't land 1 punch.

But since floyd didn't see him as a threat he just opened up on McGregor to ko him and he got tagged a few times.

Anyone can avoid not getting hit..

Look at Broner. He can play defense and not get hit.

But he can't punch and defend at the same time so the moron gives away rounds by not punching.

[djtmal]

Yes, they shouldn't put jmm on too high a pedestal, because Pac should have 3 wins over jmm if not scorecard error so how good must Pac be? I doubt Floyd could beat any version of dlh and hatton like Pac did also. Floyd s not stopping any dlh in 7 rounds or any version of Hatton in 2 rounds. So however you see it Pac s wins over dlh and hatton are better than Floyd's win over them

Floyd, with every conceivable advantage over Marquez, couldn't get a ko.

He only ko'd bums like Ortiz who had his hands down and he needed two shots to accomplish that.