Who proved superior skill over Marquez, PAC or FLOYD?

[hugh grant]

No, jmm never said Floyd is greater. He said Floyd is difficult as he don't want to fight, difficult style and difficult to hit. Jmm didn't say Floyd was greater. He makes it clear who has better resume and career.
JMM can't imagine, having x2 wins over, morales, barrrera, bradley and every thing else Pac has did

[Thuglife Nelo]

Marquez himself would be the only one who could answer this.

Luckily, he has:

https://www.ringtv.com/508347-best-f...anuel-marquez/


Marquez agreed to speak about the best fighters he fought in 10 categories:

BEST JAB
Marco Antonio Barrera: When you want to dodge a jab using speed, you must calculate it. That is what I did with him. I tried to guess where his punches were going and then counterpunch and decrease their accuracy.

BEST CHIN
Manny Pacquiao: He took a good shot and he always returned stronger.

FASTEST HANDS
Pacquiao: He has a lot of power and speed.

FASTEST FEET
Pacquiao: He is always everywhere. He is a tough fighter.

SMARTEST
Sergey Fedchenko: The Ukrainian fighter, no one knew him. He had a great counterpunching (style), speed and a great jab. He was very intelligent also. Manuel “Mantecas” Medina was also very smart.

STRONGEST
Pacquiao: When he fought, he moved his hips a lot. Then I analyzed that all his power came from there, in the hips. I understood that he couldn’t do his power moves and he would have problems if I used speed so I started fighting different.

BEST PUNCHER
Pacquiao: In all the fights I had, nobody hit me harder than him.

BEST DEFENSE
Pacquiao: He is great at closing his defense, he has a good guard and it is very hard to land (a clean punch). After four fights with him, I was able to know him better. I also learned his mistakes. Fedchenko also had great defense.

BEST SKILLS
Juan Diaz: Juan has a lot of speed. He was aggressive and elusive. On the other hand, Joel (Casamayor) was great with the distance and he was a brilliant fighter.

BEST OVERALL
Pacquiao: Without doubt, the best pound-for-pound of his time and I faced him at his best.



No mention of Floyd - I think marquez has no respect for floyd because of the catch weight and coming in over the agreed limit. (Floyd had to pay marquez almost a million if i remember right - similar to how he pays to win most of his fights).

Mexicans are a tad racist, you think Marquez would admit the schooling he got? It’s better to hype the guy he slept because he did it in legendary fashion.

[asgarth]

Floyd Mayweather, I think Marquez only won 1 round etc

Marquez did not really have a answer for Mayweather's ability.

Marquez was not weight drained, so I have no idea why people are bringing up weight issues. Marquez was not good enough, looked to be 1-1/2 levels below Mayweather etc

I dont get the last argument. So you are saying weight wasnt an issue for Canelo Vs Khan, Golovkin Vs Brook because they werent weight drained? I dont think Marquez would have won if both were of similar size, because styles make fights. But weight was still to a certain extent a factor in that fight.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I dont get the last argument. So you are saying weight wasnt an issue for Canelo Vs Khan, Golovkin Vs Brook because they werent weight drained? I dont think Marquez would have won if both were of similar size, because styles make fights. But weight was still to a certain extent a factor in that fight.

It is not a argument, I am telling you point blank.

Marquez was not weight drained, not being forced to make his former weight? Was only going to benefit him. The weight has no relevance.

He was not weight drained, and was beaten by Floyd Mayweather.

Tyson Fury weighed 40 pounds more than Deontay Wilder, what is your point? There is no real argument here that you have.

Floyd Mayweather did not gain some sort of illegal advantage, and he did not weight drain Marquez.

Marquez was beaten from start to finish, Mayweather should of really in my opinion? Emptied the tank and pushed for the stoppage.

[ShoulderRoll]

The answer is obvious.

Floyd smoked Marquez AND beat Pacquiao.

[asgarth]

It is not a argument, I am telling you point blank.

Marquez was not weight drained, not being forced to make his former weight? Was only going to benefit him. The weight has no relevance.

He was not weight drained, and was beaten by Floyd Mayweather.

Tyson Fury weighed 40 pounds more than Deontay Wilder, what is your point? There is no real argument here that you have.

Floyd Mayweather did not gain some sort of illegal advantage, and he did not weight drain Marquez.

Marquez was beaten from start to finish, Mayweather should of really in my opinion? Emptied the tank and pushed for the stoppage.

No one claimed that marquez was weight drained. That's not the point about the weight.
So are you really saying that khan and brook had no disadvantage because they weren't weight drained? You didnt reply to that question.

[PRINCEKOOL]

No one claimed that marquez was weight drained. That's not the point about the weight.
So are you really saying that khan and brook had no disadvantage because they weren't weight drained? You didnt reply to that question.

They had no disadvantage placed on them solely 'As athletes'.

But? They had a greater challenge in-front of them 'Because they where facing bigger fighters'. The way you are speaking of that point, is as if that is some sort of immoral illegal disadvantage 'It is not'. That is why you have no argument, I have no idea why you or anyone else is bringing such a point up.

Mount Everest is higher than Mount Denali.

A mountaineer cannot complain about the mountain if they are fully prepared, with no real illegal disadvantages placed upon them. 'If only Mount Everest was not as high, maybe I would of climbed it' Have you ever witnessed a mountaineer speak like this? No.

Amir Khan, Kell Brook, Marquez none of those guys were weight drained. And they were most likely in better condition at the higher weights, more comfortable and able to consume more food.

Why are you complaining about them facing bigger fighters? They stepped up and challenged themselves, and got beaten.

Marquez stepped up, faced a bigger challenge in Floyd Mayweather and was completely shut out over 12 rounds.

Now it would be a different story if Mayweather had weight drained Marquez, because then he would be actively trying to destroy Marquez's performance 'But none of that happened, Marquez was not weight drained'.

You have no real argument or point you are trying to make. You just don't want to give Floyd Mayweather credit.

Floyd Mayweather shut out Marquez over 12 rounds easy, Marquez did not even look as if he was on the same level 'Marquez could do nothing in there, he had no answer for Mayweather's ability'.

[asgarth]

They had no disadvantage placed on them solely 'As athletes'.

But? They had a greater challenge in-front of them 'Because they where facing bigger fighters'. The way you are speaking of that point, is as if that is some sort of immoral illegal disadvantage 'It is not'. That is why you have no argument, I have no idea why you or anyone else is bringing such a point up.

Mount Everest is higher than Mount Denali.

A mountaineer cannot complain about the mountain if they are fully prepared, with no real illegal disadvantages placed upon them. 'If only Mount Everest was not as high, maybe I would of climbed it' Have you ever witnessed a mountaineer speak like this? No.

Amir Khan, Kell Brook, Marquez none of those guys were weight drained. And they were most likely in better condition at the higher weights, more comfortable and able to consume more food.

Why are you complaining about them facing bigger fighters? They stepped up and challenged themselves, and got beaten.

Marquez stepped up, faced a bigger challenge in Floyd Mayweather and was completely shut out over 12 rounds.

Now it would be a different story if Mayweather had weight drained Marquez, because then he would be actively trying to destroy Marquez's performance 'But none of that happened, Marquez was not weight drained'.

You have no real argument or point you are trying to make. You just don't want to give Floyd Mayweather credit.

Floyd Mayweather shut out Marquez over 12 rounds easy, Marquez did not even look as if he was on the same level 'Marquez could do nothing in there, he had no answer for Mayweather's ability'.

As if you can compare mountaineering with boxing lol.

I'm not complaining. No one said marquez was drained, so I'm not sure why you keep repeating that. Size is a factor in boxing. That's why there are weight classes.

I also said floyd would have won even if they were similar sized. But if you are bringing up a guy 2 weightclasses, size will always play a factor.

[just the facts]

Castillo is Floyd’s daddy. “Was given a gift.” - Ronnie Shields

Floyd skurrrd of Messicans. Always catchweights even Marquez

Floyd is Canelos daddy........

[BoxingTrav]

No, jmm never said Floyd is greater. He said Floyd is difficult as he don't want to fight, difficult style and difficult to hit. Jmm didn't say Floyd was greater. He makes it clear who has better resume and career.
JMM can't imagine, having x2 wins over, morales, barrrera, bradley and every thing else Pac has did

But yet he picked Mayweather to win the fight. I wonder why?