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  • Ray*
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    #11
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    By the time these great Cuban amateurs defect, they're already past their prime. The fact that Morrell came up in that system and defected at 21 years of age should interest any boxing fan IMO. They're also bringing him along the right way, not having him face 4-67 cans for 10 fights for no reason. His opponents records in his 5 fights is 77-15-4
    Honestly this is a perfect post, I actually thought he was American. Didn’t realise he was Cuban, makes sense in the way he was being brought up to be honest.

    If he was American then he would be fighting bums for the next 20-25 fights whilst being called a P4P top 10 fighting cans.

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    • KTFOKING
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      #12
      I know what Wiki has, but boxrec is more accurate. Same as how they say Golovkin only has five losses when boxrec has him losing six times. So yeah, whatever these people report on wiki or whatever is hardly accurate.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KTFOKING

        I know what Wiki has, but boxrec is more accurate. Same as how they say Golovkin only has five losses when boxrec has him losing six times. So yeah, whatever these people report on wiki or whatever is hardly accurate.
        Believe me. He had way more than 53 fights. He only lost twice, to Cruz the Olympic gold medallist and a Canadian he later defeated. In any case, it doesn't matter what he did back them (obviously his achievements, like the World Championship under 19 years old and National Champ, are going to stay with him)but he's in a new ballgame. I think he can do some damage for a long time. Of course barring any injury and keeping his focus. Stay safe

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          #14
          Originally posted by garfios

          Believe me. He had way more than 53 fights. He only lost twice, to Cruz the Olympic gold medallist and a Canadian he later defeated. In any case, it doesn't matter what he did back them (obviously his achievements, like the World Championship under 19 years old and National Champ, are going to stay with him)but he's in a new ballgame. I think he can do some damage for a long time. Of course barring any injury and keeping his focus. Stay safe
          That's the thing, boxrec isn't picking up all the fights, only the major tournament fights. So the amateur W/L record isn't the fighters official record. But if boxrec has a fighter losing five or six times? Then that is the MINIMUM they lost.

          And I agree, the future certainly seems bright with Morrell. I don't know if Canelo will fight him since he's not a name but Morrell will get his fair share of big fights. I love how he's made a home base in Minnesota.

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            #15
            Originally posted by KTFOKING

            That's the thing, boxrec isn't picking up all the fights, only the major tournament fights. So the amateur W/L record isn't the fighters official record. But if boxrec has a fighter losing five or six times? Then that is the MINIMUM they lost.

            And I agree, the future certainly seems bright with Morrell. I don't know if Canelo will fight him since he's not a name but Morrell will get his fair share of big fights. I love how he's made a home base in Minnesota.
            Moving to Minneapolis was a good idea by his management team. Miami has damaged quite a few Cuban boxers. He have to make a name fighting the good ones like góngora, ryder, jacobs even benavidez. If he wins, whoever is on top, will have to give him the opportunity or vacate.

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              #16
              Originally posted by garfios

              Moving to Minneapolis was a good idea by his management team. Miami has damaged quite a few Cuban boxers. He have to make a name fighting the good ones like góngora, ryder, jacobs even benavidez. If he wins, whoever is on top, will have to give him the opportunity or vacate.
              Yeah, Minnesota was a good spot for him and the local community is supporting him which is huge. Morrell did good work in the community during the pandemic and it seems like he gained quite a few fans in the process.

              Only a matter of time until he gets the big names but first business is beating Ryder. If he does that? Then he's going to be just fine.

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                #17
                Originally posted by garfios

                Believe me. He had way more than 53 fights. He only lost twice, to Cruz the Olympic gold medallist and a Canadian he later defeated. In any case, it doesn't matter what he did back them (obviously his achievements, like the World Championship under 19 years old and National Champ, are going to stay with him)but he's in a new ballgame. I think he can do some damage for a long time. Of course barring any injury and keeping his focus. Stay safe

                That is just a partial record which is why only 53 of his fights are listed.
                He has at least 5 losses as an amateur.
                The fact less than half of his amateur fights are accounted for and he already has 5 losses there tells me he in fact very likely has a good few more losses.
                I seriously doubt he started out in the Cuban amateur system at 83-0 with taking an L, that simply isn't happening.

                Great prospect, top amateur but his amateur record is being exaggerated.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov


                  That is just a partial record which is why only 53 of his fights are listed.
                  He has at least 5 losses as an amateur.
                  The fact less than half of his amateur fights are accounted for and he already has 5 losses there tells me he in fact very likely has a good few more losses.
                  I seriously doubt he started out in the Cuban amateur system at 83-0 with taking an L, that simply isn't happening.

                  Great prospect, top amateur but his amateur record is being exaggerated.
                  Yeah I think it's fairly well recognised at this point that ammy records can be somewhat exaggerated, but equally that shouldn't be held against em much... these kids have to fight whoever's put in fornt of them and very frequently that means dudes with vastly more experience, and also the sheer frequency of fights means that there's just gonna be more 'off' nights or just bad styles clashes. Even if we assumed that David went 130 and 10 or something it wouldn't give us any reason to question that he was an exceptional amateur, nor cast doubt upon his potential ceiling as apro... kid appears to be a phenomenon so far, although he's hardly fought top opposition, the Ryder fight should tell us a great deal.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dan_cov


                    That is just a partial record which is why only 53 of his fights are listed.
                    He has at least 5 losses as an amateur.
                    The fact less than half of his amateur fights are accounted for and he already has 5 losses there tells me he in fact very likely has a good few more losses.
                    I seriously doubt he started out in the Cuban amateur system at 83-0 with taking an L, that simply isn't happening.

                    Great prospect, top amateur but his amateur record is being exaggerated.
                    You know what, that's probably right. The only way to find out is by doing a throughly research on the Cuban and AIBA amateur program. Which I don't care what was. What I see now, is what I like. By the way, have you seen Yoelvis Gomez and Ariel de la Torre?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by dan_cov


                      That is just a partial record which is why only 53 of his fights are listed.
                      He has at least 5 losses as an amateur.
                      The fact less than half of his amateur fights are accounted for and he already has 5 losses there tells me he in fact very likely has a good few more losses.
                      I seriously doubt he started out in the Cuban amateur system at 83-0 with taking an L, that simply isn't happening.

                      Great prospect, top amateur but his amateur record is being exaggerated.
                      Bingo! There is no way he is 130-2 when he has five reported losses on major tournaments.

                      But amateur records are always exaggerated and it makes no sense at all. Like who cares if a fighter has 10 losses opposed to 5 losses? All these guys get losses in the amateur game and some fighter are just better fit for the pro ranks.

                      More than anything, dude looks to be the goods and has a bright future. That's all that matters.

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