Mayweather vs Marquez: It isn't the mismatch you think it is.

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  • Spacey1991
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    #61
    Originally posted by El Dominicano.
    I rarely go on some DLT type **** but just gotta go threw it.
    Well sorry, but I just don't have that focus.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #62
      Co-fucking-sign Dom (just gonna pretend I read it and that it was an amazing post ).

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #63
        Originally posted by realheavyhands
        Im sorry but maywether lookds huge in his training picks and marquez is tiny..but it couls be an advantage if marquez is faster
        Floyd is no doubt the bigger man, but if JMM is the better man on the 19th will he not win because of Mayweaether's size. Maybe, I guess but if that is how it is that is how it is.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #64
          Originally posted by El Dominicano.
          Mayweather is a Jr WW campaigning at WW.

          they why won't he fight jmm at 140?
          PEOPLE! Don't be blinded, I mean, since when do WWs come into the ring weighing 146-148? They don't, Jr WWs do, infact some blow up to the 150s. Mayweather isn't THAT big, he weighed in at 150 against DLH for a Jr MW fight and then came into the ring weighing 148. I'm surprised some would LOVE to pin Mayweather against Margarito or Paul Williams but have a problem with Mayweather facing Marquez. People forget why Mayweather moved up to 147 in the first place, he couldn't land fights against Cotto, Hatton or Kosta Tszyu so he opt for SSM/ DLH at 147. He had no luck in getting Mosely so he went for DLH. As he himself said, "We tried to make the fight against DLH at 147 but that wasn't gonna happen, so we decided to face Oscar at 154". Also remember that even at 135, after defeating Ndou, Larry Merchant asked, " Why not face Casamyor or Freitas" Floyd answered, "They don't want to fight me Larry", Larry said "You know that isn't true, we both know its money", Floyd then said "Well I gotta get the big money". Although he was looking for bigger and better things, he never showed any sign of struggling to make 135. Funny how Mayweather vs Casamayor was a possible match up, Marquez vs Casamayor went down, end of the fucking world when Marquez steps in the ring with Mayweather. So when you read all this, did you get the impression that Mayweather moved up in weight because he could no longer make it? Didn't think so.
          so why don't he fight jmm at 140?

          Why is Mayweather held to this limitless standard?
          c'mon JMM is too small.
          What differentiates Mayweather from Marquez? Mayweather faced DLH at 154, DLH came into the ring weighing close to SMW but none of us here argued, Baldomir also came into the ring weighing 166 and we didn't cry mismatch. Marquez never faced that kind of adversity. Now we have two guys, where the size difference is probably gonna be 4-5 lbs or maybe less and people are bitching. Should we all baby Marquez because he isn't good enough to deal with a slight weight disadvantage? Ofcourse not, **** don't even sound right. Mayweather's level of invincibility isn't created by the fans or the nuthuggers, it's created by YOU, the haters. The sad part is, most of you don't even know it.
          lets see.... JMM has 0 fights above 135 lbs... PBF has what 5+ fights above 135 lbs...
          Comparing SRL vs Duran to Mayweather vs Marquez.

          I bring this up because few, including Mayweather brought up this comparison. Mayweather vs Marquez is taking place at a catch weight of 144, SRL vs Duran took place at 147. Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff, SRL was active at the time. SRL was a HUGE WW, Mayweather isn't. So comparing Marquez to Duran, you can clearly see that Duran didn't have this luxury when facing Leonard. So instead of standing behind Marquez, hoping that he'd capatilize and take advantage of this great opportunity, you cry mismatch, how sad really.
          uh... duran had fought above 135 lbs... JMM has never fought above 135 lbs.

          To finish it off. Sorry for being repetitive.

          Wake up and smell the coffee, the size difference between the two is gonna be 4-5 lbs, Marquez is 2nd on the P4P list and Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff...MY GOD!, doesn't that open up your mind?! isn't that mind blowing? Or are people not willing to accept that Marquez will probably lose to the better man or instead falsely believe that 4-5 lbs made the difference I don't have a problem with people who don't find this fight appealing, that's completely understandable but I do have a problem with people making this the mismatch that it isn't. I always tell people, had Marquez and Pacquiao faced off for a 3rd fight, what would Pacquiao come into the ring weighing? 148...something Mayweather has never weghed more then. Now where is the mismatch in that?
          cause both of them made the 135 lbs limit.

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            #65
            He shouldn't fight JMM at 140 because he is "MAN" going into the fight, JMM is lucky Floyd was generous enough to take 144.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              they why won't he fight jmm at 140?

              so why don't he fight jmm at 140?


              c'mon JMM is too small.

              lets see.... JMM has 0 fights above 135 lbs... PBF has what 5+ fights above 135 lbs...


              uh... duran had fought above 135 lbs... JMM has never fought above 135 lbs.



              cause both of them made the 135 lbs limit.

              Damn, what happened to you?

              You used to be one of thee worst Floyd stans on here.


              I'm actually impressed by this.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #67
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                He shouldn't fight JMM at 140 because he is "MAN" going into the fight, JMM is lucky Floyd was generous enough to take 144.
                true, but if floyd and JMM are practically the same size, why can't he go down to 140?

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                • Stoppage
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                  #68
                  I think Mayweather thought it would be a good idea to fight Marquez because he thought de la Hoya and Pac was such a best selling match that him and Marquez would be equally as good.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Tom Flores
                    Damn, what happened to you?

                    You used to be one of thee worst Floyd stans on here.


                    I'm actually impressed by this.
                    i always called it how i see it.

                    pbf is still an ATG and beats everyone 147 lbs and below, but he has to actually fight the fight to get the credit.

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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sin City
                      I read it all..
                      Marquez was considered small for 130. Mayweather is accustomed to the welterweight limit, Marquez has NEVER had a fight above 135.
                      You also forget to add his age into the equation, it's a lot harder for an old fighter to make that kind of a jump then someone who is in their absolute prime.
                      I'm a bit surprised to hear you say that. Nobody inside the sport considered Marquez too small at 130. He was at 126 as a kid. In fact, JMM had already tested the waters at higher weights (130/135) earlier in his career.

                      Please refer to boxrec.

                      Your statement is not accurate. it is easier for an older fighter whose body is more mature to move up. As evidenced by the fact that many of them do: Hopkins, Campbell, etc.

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