Comments Thread For: Watchdogs Fall Short With Davis' Three-Division Champ Claim

[Thuglife Nelo]

I like all the LDBC PBC Haymonites in the thread like Amir Annoy, Oldskool*****, trying to go against Lyle. they have no problem when Manouk Pokeman writes PBC Pro articles doe... there are levels to this game mayne. Manouk is like Regular Champ. Lyle is Super Champ. Gotta put the Haymonite world on check! cause dass wacist mayne!

[Shadoww702]

Good read! I remember the days of Lyle Fitz writing all the time for Bleacher Report before they turned into corporate GARBAGE.

"and critiquing water pressure in fight city hotels."

DAMN shots fired at Fat Dan. Never understood why the fat b@stard spent most of his time writing about hotel water pressure??? I'm sure he was a POSht and treated others like Lyle way beneath him...

[Smash]

They could easily fix the situation by ordering these "Champions" to fight each other, or to vacate!

or just go back to one wba champ even better!

how about ordering unifications, force the 4 main beltholders to fight each other, rotate that in with mando, voluntary and no excuses or u vacate, there surely must be 10 great ways to set it up better, all it takes is the will & all these guys in boxing, promoters, manager, orgs etc say they want change but i dont think any of them actually do, they are happy with the status quo and feed us BS that they are not

[Shadoww702]

Yeah I think they are trying to turn Tank into something he is not. He is my favorite current fighter but he's probably not even close to HOF yet so it's silly to create this weird hype about him like they are talking about an ATG.

Lyle actually has balls to write articles that go against the grain.

Yeah, I think that's what got him kicked off writing for BR. He's always told it like it was.

[Oldskoolg]

It was disgusting. Watch any ESPN broadcast and every other word out of their pathetic mouths was “lineal.” The day Teddy spoke the truth and was fired for it by stating Mark Kriegel didn’t s h i t about boxing was the day it died for me. Ol Markie Mark is a company stooge, a boxing know nothing who composes melodramatic fighter stories and inserts fake verbal pauses for effect. So called boxing “journalists”, networks and play by play “men” along with promoters are trashing this once great sport. Some may be off put by Atlas. For me he was and still is the refreshing truth about how corrupt boxing is. For that he was fired.

Welcome to the participation trophy, moisty millennial, pumpkin ****e, soy boy generation.

I’m not a fan of Kriegel either to be honest, I am not even sure why they have him there but then perhaps I’m not looking at it in their eyes….the man seems perfect to push propaganda and about the only person on the ESPN team that isn’t a total “company man” is Andre Ward. Im glad I’m not the only person that noticed the lineal claim was a bold face lie.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Good read! I remember the days of Lyle Fitz writing all the time for Bleacher Report before they turned into corporate GARBAGE.

"and critiquing water pressure in fight city hotels."

DAMN shots fired at Fat Dan. Never understood why the fat b@stard spent most of his time writing about hotel water pressure??? I'm sure he was a POSht and treated others like Lyle way beneath him...

what's wrong with Dan Rafael critiquing water pressure at hotel rooms? He was always clogging the toilets.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Bravo!!!!!!!Spot on in regards to the Davis hype-train! Davis has the goods…Ellerbe and Floyd too scared to risk that 0 against top level opponents. Too bad for the fans and Davis himself, who has yet to crack the p4p top ten.

[Bronx2245]

or just go back to one wba champ even better!

how about ordering unifications, force the 4 main beltholders to fight each other, rotate that in with mando, voluntary and no excuses or u vacate, there surely must be 10 great ways to set it up better, all it takes is the will & all these guys in boxing, promoters, manager, orgs etc say they want change but i dont think any of them actually do, they are happy with the status quo and feed us BS that they are not

They've been saying for years, that they would get back to one champion, but they haven't. They can't order their champion to unify, so the least they can do is to scrap the "Gold" Champions, and the "Interim" Champions, and order the "World" Champions to fight the "Super" Champions! This article is from 2016!!!

WBA working to reduce number of titles
January 19, 2016

Anyone who has read my work will know that I have had issues with the WBA for years -- the organization that recently had a deceased boxer in its rankings for several months.

My main issue has been that the WBA crowns up to four titleholders in the same weight class -- super, regular, unified and interim -- seemingly only for the sake of generating more sanction fees. Some fighters and promoters are all too happy to go along with it too.

It’s enough to drive me, and others, crazy because whatever short-term gain there might be for the few individuals who benefit from all the extra belts, I’ve never thought it was worth the long-term damage to whatever credibility was left in the sport. It just smacked of ******ity to have more than one titleholder in the same organization in the same division...

The elimination of multiple world titles in the same division will not happen overnight. I get that but Mendoza has told me personally that he is going to reduce the number of titles. I will take him at his word until proven otherwise.

“I am working to reduce the titles,” Mendoza told me on Tuesday. “At first some promoters [might] complain. I just tell them it is my final decision. They would have to live with it.”

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...mber-of-titles

They still haven't addressed the issue in over 5 years!!!

[Bronx2245]

or just go back to one wba champ even better!

how about ordering unifications, force the 4 main beltholders to fight each other, rotate that in with mando, voluntary and no excuses or u vacate, there surely must be 10 great ways to set it up better, all it takes is the will & all these guys in boxing, promoters, manager, orgs etc say they want change but i dont think any of them actually do, they are happy with the status quo and feed us BS that they are not

Here's an article from just last year!!!

WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

The president of the World Boxing Association, Gilberto Mendoza, admits that there is difficulty in reducing the number of titles that his organization sanctions, but also states that credibility in an industry like boxing is not simply given by sanctioning a single title per weight class.

In the last few years, the vast majority of fans have become tired of the countless world champions in every weight class. Most casual fans have found it impossible to distinguish one title from the other - especially when a sanctioning body has more than one champion in a single weight division.

Among the four major sanctioning bodies, the WBA and WBC have become notorious for having multiple champions per weight class.

While the criticisms have not stopped against the WBA over their path of having numerous champions per weight class - Mendoza says the incoming requests from promoters to approve various title fights have continued to pour in - with promoters indicating, in their requests, that a title will benefit their fighters and their televised event.

While Mendoza has spoken to rival sanctioning bodies about staging division-wide unification tournaments - the issue that comes up, is that certain promoters and/or champions are not interested in participating.

“They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don't give me solid arguments. They tell me that [the titles] are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to set a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it. When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight - not everyone is willing to take part," Mendoza told ESPN Deportes.

"And on the other hand... a boxer with a title does better, a boxer who gets himself a title fight does better, a network that broadcasts a title fight does better, a promoter who has a title fight does better. The same fan [who complains], if he knows there is a title at stake, they are more attentive [to the fight]."

According to the WBA's rankings, there are 39 champions in 17 divisions, including super champions, regular and interim champions.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wba-prez...titles--150217

[Smash]

Here's an article from just last year!!!
“They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don't give me solid arguments. They tell me that [the titles] are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to set a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it. When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight - not everyone is willing to take part,"

Not everyone wants to enter it LMAO, this clown is part of this system, of course not everybody wants to enter it!!! u have to force them!! thats the whole point, omg

u clearly show who is the top guy, whatever way is agreed on & stop all this nonsense, people will always have excuses not to do things, they will wait until a tough opponent ages or loses for or is beaten, they will avoid other styles etc or will just say the money is not right etc, ok if thats the case u are not the top guy then, someone else can be until u are ready, u are a contender until that time

thanks for the articles tho, interesting stuff