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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Tank is a great little fighter it's a good fight and a good challenge. A good solid fight in your 1st fight in a new division.

    My annoyances are he has talked so much smack about so many fighters, majority of them were receptive towards a fight but then he stepped around all of them and took a fight nobody asked for against a fighter not everybody has heard of. Also this WBA Bullsheet. He ain't fighting for a world title. It's a good fight let's not pretend its any more than that.
    how has he proved his greatness? he's literally fought one top 10 fighter his entire career

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      #12
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      P4P talent vs. gatekeeper.
      p4p talent based on what?

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        #13
        Originally posted by PinkGod

        Thing is the Akhmedov fight was 2 years ago & his last fight was against Ryan Karl (which was on the Tank vs Leo card) and he 100% redeemed himself, but let's back to the Akhmedov fight. Yea it was a tough fight ngl but he defintely won that fight, i mean he had 2 knockdowns & snagged the earlier rounds, Akhmedov style was bad for him but Tank doesn't fight like that if we're being completely honest. He's more of a aggressive counter puncher, which Barrios is as well. To me it'll come down to the style Tank goes into this fight with, If he comes out like a pressure fighter than he'll probably KO Barrios somewhere in the middle rounds but if Tank fights with the same style he always fights then I don't know...
        He definitely did NOT win that fight. You can score it a draw and that's perfectly fine since Barrios won at least three of the first four rounds, if not all of them and then got the KD in the 12th. But there's not other rounds he had a case in. IIRC, the 5th may have been a bit close but the rest of the rounds Ahkmedov won.

        Barrios showed he was tough though and can take a punch as he never got dropped despite taking a lot of shots. That's why I don't get why people think it is a forgone conclusion that Tank stops this guy. Barrios is a big guy that will be at WW soon and has a good chin. Tank also isn't an active fighter so you can outwork him and get rounds off of him. If he's unable to put Barrios away, this fight will be very interesting.

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          #14
          Originally posted by PinkGod

          Thing is the Akhmedov fight was 2 years ago & his last fight was against Ryan Karl (which was on the Tank vs Leo card) and he 100% redeemed himself, but let's back to the Akhmedov fight. Yea it was a tough fight ngl but he defintely won that fight, i mean he had 2 knockdowns & snagged the earlier rounds, Akhmedov style was bad for him but Tank doesn't fight like that if we're being completely honest. He's more of a aggressive counter puncher, which Barrios is as well. To me it'll come down to the style Tank goes into this fight with, If he comes out like a pressure fighter than he'll probably KO Barrios somewhere in the middle rounds but if Tank fights with the same style he always fights then I don't know...
          its literally impossible for him to win that fight. akhmedov won 7 rounds in dominant fashion from 5-11. like no way you could give barrios any of those rounds. a couple of those could have been 10-8's in akhmedovs favor he was battering him all over the ring. he also dominated the 12th excpet for the one punch he was knocked down with. he snagged the early rounds...thats a pretty vague description of the fight. the first 4 maybe barrios won them all. maybe not, couple close ones. that would be generous if you gave him all 4 but if you gave him the first 4 and the 12th 10-8, and didnt give akhmedov any 10-8s then ok you could get a draw for barrios. next question is...is akhmedov even good? he had 6 fights and hes getting a gift vs him?

          he redeemed himself vs ryan karl...who is this? he said he would rematch akhmedov and ran for the hills. how is fighting a complete unknown bum and ducking the guy that you robbed redeeming yourself. sometimes i wonder...
          Last edited by daggum; 06-24-2021, 06:06 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by daggum

            how has he proved his greatness? he's literally fought one top 10 fighter his entire career
            Bingo! Which is why it doesn't make sense why people are thinking this is a big mismatch. When has Tank proven his greatness like you just said? When has he shown he can dispatch top competition? Tank lost rounds vs LSC and was getting outhustled and was out of shape vs Gamboa and tired after a few rounds. He has plenty to prove still.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING

              Bingo! Which is why it doesn't make sense why people are thinking this is a big mismatch. When has Tank proven his greatness like you just said? When has he shown he can dispatch top competition? Tank lost rounds vs LSC and was getting outhustled and was out of shape vs Gamboa and tired after a few rounds. He has plenty to prove still.
              ok so why are 2 unproven fighters headlining a ppv? they keep promoting him as a top guy.

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                #17
                Originally posted by daggum

                ok so why are 2 unproven fighters headlining a ppv? they keep promoting him as a top guy.
                Why was Joshua headlining PPVs in the UK before he became proven? You put fighters on PPV that could draw period. That's what PPV is, not how great a fighter is or how great a match up is. We have gotten and will be getting how many undisputed match ups the last few years? How many headlined PPV? Crawford is top 3 P4P, is he headlining PPV? How about Lomachenko? Or Inoue?

                When you can generate a certain amount of money on PPV, you put a fighter on there. If that fighter can't generate enough buys (ex Crawford/Charlos), you take them off PPV. Simple as that.

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                  #18
                  I can see the possible danger he's fighting a much bigger, seemingly durable Mexican with a little pop but I'd rather see him fight the threats his his own size (Lopez, Loma, Haney hell even Garcia) than some rather slow, methodical B level guy with a fair size advantage.

                  Tanks stamina is already questionable nevermind at 140 vs a big lump so it could get interesting late on.

                  Normally you would maybe give him some credit for jumping up a division or 2 but when there is 4-5 threats more-or-less ready & willing in your own division, it just seems like its not so much a risk and you have plenty of excuses to fall back on.

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                    #19
                    When Brook ******ly jumped upto fight GGG or Khan to fight Canelo. Rigo to fight Loma.
                    We're not just talking about them being bigger. We're giving them such credit because GGG, Loma and Canelo are so skilled. Nobody is talking about this guys skillset because well, he's just big and ordinary.
                    Last edited by dan_cov; 06-24-2021, 06:27 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING

                      Why was Joshua headlining PPVs in the UK before he became proven? You put fighters on PPV that could draw period. That's what PPV is, not how great a fighter is or how great a match up is. We have gotten and will be getting how many undisputed match ups the last few years? How many headlined PPV? Crawford is top 3 P4P, is he headlining PPV? How about Lomachenko? Or Inoue?

                      When you can generate a certain amount of money on PPV, you put a fighter on there. If that fighter can't generate enough buys (ex Crawford/Charlos), you take them off PPV. Simple as that.

                      he wasnt? his first ppv was against dillian whyte. his next was a title fight against martin. almost all his ppv fights have been against top 10 opponents cept molina and takam(5 days notice or so when pulev pulled out) he also hasnt hesitated to try and fight everyone in his division where tank has ran away from anyone good. where has tank offered loma, lopez, etc...100 million dollars to fight? he wouldnt even fight tevin farmer. this is the standard con. they are pretending tank is some top guy because hes knocking over tomato cans or old/small names. this is pretty standard in boxing but to do it on ppv is pretty ballsy like i said. people are obviously being tricked but hey i guess thats america?
                      Last edited by daggum; 06-24-2021, 06:36 PM.

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