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  • Curt Henning
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    #51
    Originally posted by icha
    i honestly dont know if he believes he can beat him, i just think he doesnt care that much anymore, its been all about getting paid lately and andrade is kind of high risk low reward if you ask me..
    thats the problem with him though...hes been paid......the canelo fights alone set him very well...and even after that hes been paid handsomely........there have been legit questions about his resume/career and he doesnt care to answer them or try to....likely because he doesnt fancy his chances against andrade...if he did he would make the fight......theres a guy with a questionable career/resume who doesnt want a tough fight anymore unless its megabucks against canelo.......him against andrade is a fight that fight fans want even if it isnt some big money draw fight like a murata in japan fight would be.......he simply doesnt care...he wants a fight thats a good stylistic matchup that he thinks he can win and is a big attraction somewhere.....this is the kind of fight that most guys here would bash other fighters for taking and they will give golovkin a pass even though golovkin hasnt done anything to earn such a pass...more accomplished fighters get bashed for less which has been going on the entire time golovkin has been relevant...his fans have bashed floyd and ward and canelo and others...while giving this guy pass after pass.......i realize golovkin is older and slowing down....that would be fair had golovkin answered questions about how good he really is much sooner.....he hasnt...he didnt....not in my eyes..

    in my eyes he was given a pass by the media and alot of fans....because HBO hype train got behind him and green lit alot of fights for him they prob wouldnt have for others fighters as main events...all to build him into some monster...the media never asked the tough questions about him....and they still wont to be honest....he hasnt done anything in my eyes to warrant the "let him cash out and take some easier fightes....hes earned it"....andrade is def a fight he should take and could quiet alot of concerns about him....but he wont...and if this report is trues hes actively trying not to answer those questions

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      #52
      Originally posted by QballLobo
      GGG’s original deal was 50% in DAZN stock options. After Canelo left and they couldn’t force that fight they made him re negotiate to a lower amount since his crap fights don’t bring in many views.
      DAZN hasn’t gotten any return on their GGG investment so they aren’t paying for another no name opponent GGG wants.
      QballLobo, do have a source for this valued information? Hope so….

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        #53
        Originally posted by Curt Henning

        thats the problem with him though...hes been paid......the canelo fights alone set him very well...and even after that hes been paid handsomely........there have been legit questions about his resume/career and he doesnt care to answer them or try to....likely because he doesnt fancy his chances against andrade...if he did he would make the fight......theres a guy with a questionable career/resume who doesnt want a tough fight anymore unless its megabucks against canelo.......him against andrade is a fight that fight fans want even if it isnt some big money draw fight like a murata in japan fight would be.......he simply doesnt care...he wants a fight thats a good stylistic matchup that he thinks he can win and is a big attraction somewhere.....this is the kind of fight that most guys here would bash other fighters for taking and they will give golovkin a pass even though golovkin hasnt done anything to earn such a pass...more accomplished fighters get bashed for less which has been going on the entire time golovkin has been relevant...his fans have bashed floyd and ward and canelo and others...while giving this guy pass after pass.......i realize golovkin is older and slowing down....that would be fair had golovkin answered questions about how good he really is much sooner.....he hasnt...he didnt....not in my eyes..

        in my eyes he was given a pass by the media and alot of fans....because HBO hype train got behind him and green lit alot of fights for him they prob wouldnt have for others fighters as main events...all to build him into some monster...the media never asked the tough questions about him....and they still wont to be honest....he hasnt done anything in my eyes to warrant the "let him cash out and take some easier fightes....hes earned it"....andrade is def a fight he should take and could quiet alot of concerns about him....but he wont...and if this report is trues hes actively trying not to answer those questions
        One thing is for sure! GGG’s name on his resume will help out Andrade greatly. Not to mention adding the IBF belt to the WBO. Mall has to fight him then, winner slaps Murata around in Japan in the winter….plenty of time for both to happen. Wtf wait till December for GGG. That’s a waste imho

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        • paulf
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          #54
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

          You’re not wrong…

          I do think GGG-Andrade makes sense in late summer time though, not like GGG has anyone better to fight.
          It's already almost July; the December fight with Murata is six months away. Two full camps to fight top-shelf opponents back to back in, what, a 3 month time span?

          Not realistic for Golovkin at his age.
          Last edited by paulf; 06-25-2021, 12:51 AM.

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          • daggum
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            #55
            Originally posted by Curt Henning

            thats the problem with him though...hes been paid......the canelo fights alone set him very well...and even after that hes been paid handsomely........there have been legit questions about his resume/career and he doesnt care to answer them or try to....likely because he doesnt fancy his chances against andrade...if he did he would make the fight......theres a guy with a questionable career/resume who doesnt want a tough fight anymore unless its megabucks against canelo.......him against andrade is a fight that fight fans want even if it isnt some big money draw fight like a murata in japan fight would be.......he simply doesnt care...he wants a fight thats a good stylistic matchup that he thinks he can win and is a big attraction somewhere.....this is the kind of fight that most guys here would bash other fighters for taking and they will give golovkin a pass even though golovkin hasnt done anything to earn such a pass...more accomplished fighters get bashed for less which has been going on the entire time golovkin has been relevant...his fans have bashed floyd and ward and canelo and others...while giving this guy pass after pass.......i realize golovkin is older and slowing down....that would be fair had golovkin answered questions about how good he really is much sooner.....he hasnt...he didnt....not in my eyes..

            in my eyes he was given a pass by the media and alot of fans....because HBO hype train got behind him and green lit alot of fights for him they prob wouldnt have for others fighters as main events...all to build him into some monster...the media never asked the tough questions about him....and they still wont to be honest....he hasnt done anything in my eyes to warrant the "let him cash out and take some easier fightes....hes earned it"....andrade is def a fight he should take and could quiet alot of concerns about him....but he wont...and if this report is trues hes actively trying not to answer those questions

            he beat a much better version of canelo and floyds best win of his career is over a drained canelo so you just admitted floyd has a questionable career/resume. maybe floyds resume is deeper with a lot of b level and past prime fighters? cool great job floyd! quantity over quality!


            same BS over and over with no evidence/data to your claims. hbo is the network that gave canelo 6 out of 7 fights against unranked opponents when he started fighting on their network. 6 out of 7 of gggs opponents were in the top 10 when he started fighting on hbo but yeah keep telling us about that easy road ggg had! even 3 out of floyds first 5 fights on hbo were against unranked fighters oops!!! you got it wrong what a surprise! POINT DEBUNKED!

            point two he also showed a willingness to fight anyone. he signed to fight pirog when no one else wanted to fight him. he was willing to fight martinez, cotto, sturm, quillin, saunders, canelo, etc..if they wanted it while guys like ward did not want the top guys. after signing with hbo ward ducked the top guys and wanted hbo to approve dmitri sartison. look it up. its all there. he said no to bute, froch 2, ggg. this is why they fought in court and ward was soundly defeated. hbo had no problem with gggs opponents and knew he would fight the top guys when the time came which he did. instead of looking at the evidence you just made up your own story.

            your whole argument seems to be blaming ggg because the big name guys waited to fight him. its very strange and makes little sense. and if he was just hype how come everyone had him beating canelo at least once and fighting him evenly in the second fight? he didnt get blasted by a fringe gy like maidana or victor otiz. that should prove he wasnt hype but your bias and hate is taking over you ability to think correctly and make cohernet arguments.

            also they were building ggg up for one of their bigger stars. you dont even get it! its hilarious. you are comparing him to floyd? the guy who sold millions of ppvs? that obviously was never going to be ggg. ggg was a popular hbo fighter who could cross over to ppv if he was fighting a big name guy. he was not a ppv mega star like canelo, floyd, oscar etc....the fact you are unable to even interpret reality correctly is frightening. mind bobbling even.
            Last edited by daggum; 06-25-2021, 02:14 AM.

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            • GreyFox
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              #56
              GGG is the biggest fraud in boxing in a long time.

              Only KO'd tomato cans and once he started fighting good competition he arguably lost every single one of those fights.

              Of course Dazn is trying to make to Andrade/GGG unification. Two middleweight belt holders on the same network, that's a no-brainer.

              If Dazn is unable to make that unification fight it cements GGG's legacy as the biggest fraud in boxing history.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #57
                Originally posted by GreyFox
                GGG is the biggest fraud in boxing in a long time.

                Only KO'd tomato cans and once he started fighting good competition he arguably lost every single one of those fights.

                Of course Dazn is trying to make to Andrade/GGG unification. Two middleweight belt holders on the same network, that's a no-brainer.

                If Dazn is unable to make that unification fight it cements GGG's legacy as the biggest fraud in boxing history.
                - -Eddie been working on Dumping Androgynous whose stink factor would gag a skunk.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by paulf

                  Plenty of DAZN $$$ for the level of effort; they were easy/tuneup fights to stay active while we waited for the right payday/megafight. And you know this.

                  People need to stop crying about Andrade not getting to fight an old-as-**** Golovkin for millions of dollars, and start telling Andrade to move up and take on some challenges if he wants to build his brand and become a name in the sport like the greats that came before him did. Golovkin's legacy is set in stone, while Andrade is still nobody. And hes running out of time.
                  Stop it. If anyone else other than Andrade had that belt, I guarantee that GGG, Charlo, and every other MW would have tried to get it.

                  I just don't understand being an apologist for any fighter to the point of condoning them not fighting the other top fighters. It's not good for the sport, so either you're a fan of the sport or you're just trying to protect your favorite fighters.

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                  • MONGOOSE66
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                    #59
                    I’d love to see hair flying everywhere but no way DAZN puts their cash cow in with a still DANGEROUS and OLD boxer like G.

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #60
                      Would he be expected to face Andrade before or after Murata?

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