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  • #31
    Originally posted by Liondw View Post
    I really love Tyson Fury, and how he overcame his struggles to come back the way he has.

    I do have a few issues with this article though.

    I think, to say the greats such as Marciano and Louis, who were by no means big heavyweights, get knocked out by a big guy like Fury, is quite inaccurate.

    Why? Because that doesn't give credit to their greatness. Primo Carnera was huge, but not at all a dominant force.

    Fury is bigger than Foreman but I don't think anyone says he hits as hard as Foreman, and I don't think you can say he beats him without a doubt.

    Larry Holmes, he has a bit of greatness, and that jab was amazing. But, I wouldn't put him on boxing's Mount Rushmore before Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and Foreman.

    Honorable considerations to Bowe and Holyfield, and the latter had Iron Mike's number.
    Marciano and Louis may not get knocked out by fury but I highly doubt they could win that fight if fury fought how he did in wilder 2, using his size and weight to drain an opponent wilder's size shows it works, now imagine him using the same tactics against Marciano and u know what the outcome would be, prime foreman on the other hand could very easily drop fury if he connected cleanly but it's whether he could keep him down or not as fury has shown down the years he has a very good chin, he could even withstand his own uppercut haha
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    • #32
      Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

      Wtf are u talking about, I'm asking u a legit question, your making out that anyone who writes an article that is pro any boxer, it's like ldbc.. Ldbc are fkn ridiculously pro black and pro wilder, and they love to discuss and make up wild conspiracy theories that make no sense to the average boxing enthusiast, I do not accept the notion that anytime a writer makes an article based on a boxer and his qualities it puts them on a par with ldbc, that was my point u utter ******, again try explaining your point better and u won't look like an idiot
      Alright princess, calm the **** down.

      You asked me a 'legit' question and then answered it yourself. Stop being an attention seeking little fanny. Its not all about how many posts you can do in the 3 months you've been on this forum.

      If you know what the LDBC do, they hype specific fighters which is exactly what this article does. See the correlation there?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

        Alright princess, calm the **** down.

        You asked me a 'legit' question and then answered it yourself. Stop being an attention seeking little fanny. Its not all about how many posts you can do in the 3 months you've been on this forum.

        If you know what the LDBC do, they hype specific fighters which is exactly what this article does. See the correlation there?
        Did I touch a nerve there boy? Again I assumed what I thought u may be getting at because u refused to answer my question, I see the correlation your making but I think it's pretty fkn ****** to now say that any article that is pro any boxer is now on a par with the ldbc clowns

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        • #34
          Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

          Did I touch a nerve there boy? Again I answered what I thought u may be getting at because u refused to answer my question, I see the correlation your making but I think it's pretty fkn ****** to now say that any article that is pro any boxer is now on a par with the ldbc clowns
          No, not at all. There is nothing you could say or do that would touch a nerve. But please feel free to try.

          As I said, stop being an attention seeker.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by denium View Post

            No doubt the bookies know that Team Bum Squad & Haymon will try and cheat again like they did in the second fight with their paid off ref.
            Calm down denium, you are starting to sound like those wacko conspiracy theorist that believe in 'Glove-Gate'.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

              No, not at all. There is nothing you could say or do that would touch a nerve. But please feel free to try.

              As I said, stop being an attention seeker.
              Haha so me asking u to clarify a comment is attention seeking, ffs son behave

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post

                Calm down denium, you are starting to sound like those wacko conspiracy theorist that believe in 'Glove-Gate'.
                Bayless was clearly paid off, it was so obvious that I was screaming at the tv in utter disbelief at what was happening
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post

                  Calm down denium, you are starting to sound like those wacko conspiracy theorist that believe in 'Glove-Gate'.
                  S'ok bruh, even Haymon's paid off ref and judges won't be able to save Wilder from yet another beating by the GK.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KING S.O.G View Post

                    Nice clip. Big thanks!
                    Yeah tyson is a dirty fighter, he clearly is not adverse to breaking the rules. Couple this with the fact that he has been an active narcotics user and has been caught using performance enhancing drugs and you begin to see patterns. This is why I don’t automatically throw out SOME of wilders claims. It goes down to character….and it’s clear fury has character flaws. And let’s be honest here, any Brit or Irishman knows the travellers are not known for being law abiding trustworthy people.
                    in any event, the article seems to claim some manner of all time status based on his size and his ability and seemingly his win over wilder. ESPN has fury on the p4p list due to his performances against wilder. So logically if you’re telling me that he has achieved that on beating wilder then all these claims by the legion of wilder detractors are completely bunk. You don’t get p4p or all time status for being wilder if wilder is as bad as his embittered ultranationalist haters say he is.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Liondw View Post
                      I really love Tyson Fury, and how he overcame his struggles to come back the way he has.

                      I do have a few issues with this article though.

                      I think, to say the greats such as Marciano and Louis, who were by no means big heavyweights, get knocked out by a big guy like Fury, is quite inaccurate.

                      Why? Because that doesn't give credit to their greatness. Primo Carnera was huge, but not at all a dominant force.

                      Fury is bigger than Foreman but I don't think anyone says he hits as hard as Foreman, and I don't think you can say he beats him without a doubt.

                      Larry Holmes, he has a bit of greatness, and that jab was amazing. But, I wouldn't put him on boxing's Mount Rushmore before Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and Foreman.

                      Honorable considerations to Bowe and Holyfield, and the latter had Iron Mike's number.
                      I have a hard time believing Lennox would have beaten Larry Holmes on his prime. Lennox would have only been 2 inches taller than Larry and would have faced the best jab in heavyweight history. Only Ali and Liston come close. And Larry could pop himself. Now I’m not saying Lennox was lower to the level of Cooney but Cooney was a massive puncher with that left hook. Shavers was one of the hardest punchers of not the hardest in the history of the division definitely of those to never win a title. Both of these men hit Holmes on his prime and couldn’t keep him down. Holmes movement abs jan alone would have been too much for Lewis. And the fact that Holmes on the 15th round against Norton was able to fight like it was the first round showed all time great stamina. Lewis fatigued badly in fights with Holyfield (II) and Vitali. Lewis is an all
                      time great I am not debating that, but I can’t see him on par with larry Holmes. And to add, Holmes was a lot better than McCall and Rahman.

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