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Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
You're right, he's faced lil competition, (even tho I rank Ortiz higher than most) but so has every other top HW, but this only get brought up with Wilder lol. Who has Fury fought besides Kiltch? Who has Joshua fought besides a 82 yr klitch?
Btw, I know wilder is not the best fighter out there, far from it, but that's why he's so intriguing. He's a cruiserweight KO'n much bigger HW. With his limited skillset he's been able to achieve so much, which is remarkable and why I cheer for him.
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Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
You're first loss is always the toughest. Once you've lost once, seems like it's easier for fighters to lose after that. I'll prove it; when Kell Brooks fought possibly the hardest puncher in boxing P4P in GGG, he never went down, even with a broken eye socket. Truly fought to the end (corner stoppage) when he fought Spence in his next fight, yes he was taking a beating, but he was arguably winning the fight, yet decided to take a knee and give up in the corner. This happens plenty of times in boxing. Once you've lost, it's somehow easier to lose again.
See AJ, he had the mental strength to rematch immediately. But he had to adjust. In the first Ruiz fight AJ was fighting to Ruiz's strength, in the pocket, and got caught with a left hook to the temple (not his chin) and concussed and lost the fight. In the rematch he fought to his own strength, using his advantages, reach and atleticism and revenged his lone loss.
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Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
The 120 mil wasn’t even guaranteed and it was a three fight deal. Wilder turned it down knowing the fight with AJ itself could make far more than 120 mil over two fights. At that time he would have been an idiot to have signed such a deal. In addition no one is a “coward” there tough guy; not AJ, not Wilder, not Fury. That’s fan boi hero worship talk. NO BOXER who laces them up and steps into a ring risking their lives every second is a “coward.” GTFO here with that bulls h i t talk.Last edited by Boxviewer; 06-22-2021, 12:57 AM.Akutalee likes this.
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Wilder is dangerous against anybody because of that one punch power, but hes also very vulnerable himself and has an extremely padded record in comparison to AJ. Joshua would be the 2nd most skilled boxer Wilder would have faced in 40+ fights as well as the biggest puncher.
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The Hearn/Joshua 'offer' came in at 15m around 10/15% of the pot , they knew as everyone did it was so there would be no fight and they were correct. Tyson came in unfit and over weight and made a deal ....the rest is history.
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