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  • hugh grant
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    #211
    Scum between toes? That's only probably bits of sock.

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    • davefromvancouv
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      #212
      Originally posted by Inspired

      so all your giving me are more contradictions

      finkle - there's no rematch clause if aj loses

      frank warren - aj ducked, i know because i saw the contract...why? because the money was coming from bt sports, it was a guaranteed 80m from 2 fights minimum, so if aj lost the first, he would still get 30m for the rematch.

      lou dibella - so what is wrong with that?

      he didnt deny it, his first response was 'so what?' lmao.

      Espinoza is absolutely bitter about dazn.



      you've not shown anything concrete other than show me that these people are bitter and will change their story at any time.
      fact is, you know perfectly that finkle said 'no rematch' and frank AND finkle later said 'yeh yeh it was guaranteed 80m with a rematch clause'

      plus i like how you try to stick to the 50m thing, talk about flat fee offers vs percentages, but ignore that wilder turned down $100m, with 80m for AJ when he has never ever come close to generating that sort of money on his own.

      Joshua is the money guy..after getting battered by ruiz, look at the money the saudis paid him?
      some people are just superstars regardless of anything else. AJ became more popular after a loss because people saw how he conducted himself.


      'he tried to steal away fury'
      wrong, Fury was clout chasing by constantly mentioning aj and getting all his edl fanbase inc carl froch, to wade in and diss aj. fury is on record saying 'im free to fight aj, no one cares about usyk, I WANT AJ' which is how that whole situation materialised.

      also what a sad **** you watched this 2 hour 18 mins crap?
      all that and you didnt know about finkle's dan rafael interview where he openly said there's no rematch if aj loses?
      It shows that Joshua avoided Wilder because he wasn't ready. But now Joshua is ready, even though he still tried to freeze Wilder out when he thought he had a chance to do so.

      Wilder's $100 DAZN deal was contingent on Joshua being available to fight. That ended when Joshua got pummeled by Ruiz. Wilder ended up making more than that with Breazeale, Ortiz and Fury since he got massive guarantees, shared the PPV revenue and shared in the promotion. And he did it all as an independent entrepreneurial free agent.

      Now he's on the cusp of becoming two-time WBC champion and the new RING/lineal champion of the world. Joshua has an Usyk mandatory. No comparison.

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      • Inspired
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        #213
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv

        It shows that Joshua avoided Wilder because he wasn't ready. But now Joshua is ready, even though he still tried to freeze Wilder out when he thought he had a chance to do so.

        Wilder's $100 DAZN deal was contingent on Joshua being available to fight. That ended when Joshua got pummeled by Ruiz. Wilder ended up making more than that with Breazeale, Ortiz and Fury since he got massive guarantees, shared the PPV revenue and shared in the promotion. And he did it all as an independent entrepreneurial free agent.

        Now he's on the cusp of becoming two-time WBC champion and the new RING/lineal champion of the world. Joshua has an Usyk mandatory. No comparison.

        why did Wilder get the sky sports commentary gig for aj-wlad? answer, so he could talk up his position as THE top HW. instead he praised joshua, picked a fight vs bellew and ran away.
        the second time he was asked to come to the parker fight, he refused and said 'they got a restraining order'.
        aj even answered that saying he doesnt want wilder in the ring UNLESS they have a signed contract.

        so far none of this proves aj was freezing out wilder, only that he didnt like wilder clout chasing on aj's name.
        Wilder was the first to use that line 'freeze him out'.
        the fact is the real offers came from joshua's side, various offers that each time were bigger offers than his previous fights.


        Wilder got $10m vs Brezeale. Showtime made a loss and then wilder had to go to fox. $20m vs ortiz and $20m vs fury.


        stop lying about wilder's true earnings. the networks, espn and fox, spent $20m just to promote the wilder-fury fight and it did 800k ppv buys which, after all that money spent, is a joke.
        But still...$56m generated in ppv numbers plus the gate which was around $16.9m
        that's revenue btw, not profit. take out all the network costs, venue costs etc, you're prob left with around $40m.
        split 50-50, $20m each. reality.


        plus let's not forget that Wilder openly said he turned down MORE MONEY vs Joshua to take on Fury. the gamble wasd for 50% vs joshua.
        how does losing to fury then winning a 3rd, 1-1 in the trilogy, make him the winner and worthy of 50% vs joshua?
        it's still 1-1.
        if fury beats wilder then he gets the 50%. if wilder beats fury then it's 1-1 and he isnt worthy. that's my take.
        we'll see what happens.

        at the end of the day, wilder cherry picked fury, first when fury was fat, then when fury struggled vs otto wallin.
        he was never interested in aj, but aj always wanted the wilder fight.
        the 12.5m, 15m and dazn offers were legit.

        the 50m offer had too many contradictions surrounding it. '24 hours to accept or you're a coward' eg totally a con job. anyone with a brain can see it was fake. that's why shortly finkle publically accepted $15m for the fight.


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        • Inspired
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          #214
          anyway im tired of this useless exchange. you're obv an lgbtc boy. you're going on ignore now.

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          • davefromvancouv
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            #215
            Originally posted by Inspired
            anyway im tired of this useless exchange. you're obv an lgbtc boy. you're going on ignore now.
            Oh no! Anything BUT the ignore list!

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              #216
              Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
              Not that common sense would ever have any luck infiltrating wilder's thick skull... but IF he had any... he'd just STFU and get ready for his 3rd beating via Fury coming up SOON. Past that embarrassment, he'll just retire and be that bitter old untalented goofball who was too lazy to take advantage of that 12 years free education we taxpayers forked out for him. But that's what too-often happens with bullies. They think they can make their own rules. After 3 L's in a row (yes, he DID lose fight #1)... his best bet would be to just take the money, live out a luxurious life, and stop publicly running his fat pie hole entirely. As it is... he's a high profile embarrassment to the sport.
              Originally posted by BodyBagz
              If he doesn't talk (IE answer questions) he's a coward who has already been defeated mentally
              If he talks up a storm, he's is just an idiot who is trying to convince himself.
              Can't win for losing around here
              He didn't get shat upon after not speaking at the recent Fury faceoff. So just maybe NOT talking WOULD indeed be a smart move. Besides, he made his bed...

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                #217
                Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                Not that common sense would ever have any luck infiltrating wilder's thick skull... but IF he had any... he'd just STFU and get ready for his 3rd beating via Fury coming up SOON. Past that embarrassment, he'll just retire and be that bitter old untalented goofball who was too lazy to take advantage of that 12 years free education we taxpayers forked out for him. But that's what too-often happens with bullies. They think they can make their own rules. After 3 L's in a row (yes, he DID lose fight #1)... his best bet would be to just take the money, live out a luxurious life, and stop publicly running his fat pie hole entirely. As it is... he's a high profile embarrassment to the sport.


                He didn't get shat upon after not speaking at the recent Fury faceoff. So just maybe NOT talking WOULD indeed be a smart move. Besides, he made his bed...
                It's a good thing Wilder pushed for the 3rd fight. Shows he's not a coward.

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                • PunchyPotorff
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                  Not that common sense would ever have any luck infiltrating wilder's thick skull... but IF he had any... he'd just STFU and get ready for his 3rd beating via Fury coming up SOON. Past that embarrassment, he'll just retire and be that bitter old untalented goofball who was too lazy to take advantage of that 12 years free education we taxpayers forked out for him. But that's what too-often happens with bullies. They think they can make their own rules. After 3 L's in a row (yes, he DID lose fight #1)... his best bet would be to just take the money, live out a luxurious life, and stop publicly running his fat pie hole entirely. As it is... he's a high profile embarrassment to the sport.

                  Originally posted by BodyBagz
                  If he doesn't talk (IE answer questions) he's a coward who has already been defeated mentally
                  If he talks up a storm, he's is just an idiot who is trying to convince himself.
                  Can't win for losing around here

                  Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                  He didn't get shat upon after not speaking at the recent Fury faceoff. So just maybe NOT talking WOULD indeed be a smart move. Besides, he made his bed...

                  Originally posted by BodyBagz
                  It's a good thing Wilder pushed for the 3rd fight. Shows he's not a coward.
                  I've never said wilder was coward... just that he's basically too hard headed to have learned to box. Just relied on his power. Not smart. And talked too much. Also not smart.

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                    Not that common sense would ever have any luck infiltrating wilder's thick skull... but IF he had any... he'd just STFU and get ready for his 3rd beating via Fury coming up SOON. Past that embarrassment, he'll just retire and be that bitter old untalented goofball who was too lazy to take advantage of that 12 years free education we taxpayers forked out for him. But that's what too-often happens with bullies. They think they can make their own rules. After 3 L's in a row (yes, he DID lose fight #1)... his best bet would be to just take the money, live out a luxurious life, and stop publicly running his fat pie hole entirely. As it is... he's a high profile embarrassment to the sport.

                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    If he doesn't talk (IE answer questions) he's a coward who has already been defeated mentally
                    If he talks up a storm, he's is just an idiot who is trying to convince himself.
                    Can't win for losing around here

                    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
                    He didn't get shat upon after not speaking at the recent Fury faceoff. So just maybe NOT talking WOULD indeed be a smart move. Besides, he made his bed...



                    I've never said wilder was coward... just that he's basically too hard headed to have learned to box. Just relied on his power. Not smart. And talked too much. Also not smart.
                    Fury fans were calling him a coward for not talking during pre fight crap
                    When he does talk, he's called a simpleton
                    Can a person be a cowardly yapper while staying quiet until he fights a person he's supposed to be scared of ?

                    Nothing matters but the fight and it's happening.
                    Is Malik a good trainer or not
                    Has Wilder learned anything
                    Was the 2nd fight a bad day at the office

                    We will find out soon enough and not a word need be said.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by davefromvancouv

                      Joshua already said it wasn't a problem.

                      Lou DiBella said it wasn't a problem.

                      Steven Espinoza said it wasn't a problem.

                      The only one who had a problem was Hearn because he wouldn't be able to get his massive cut. Which is why he muddied the waters and spun the false narrative that: the offer was fake, they didn't want to meet, we did all we could do, show me proof of funds, etc...

                      Wilder is back.
                      Fury's going to sleep.
                      Joshua has a second chance to make things right.
                      50/50.
                      60/40 rematch.
                      ———-1

                      I’m here to remind you to show up after Fury-Wilder. You bragged about Wilder destroying Fury, well, here we are after the fight.
                      I can’t even make fun of you though because Wilder redeemed himself in the loss.
                      What a fight!!!

                      Unlike you, I can still respect Wilder for a helluva performance.

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