Comments Thread For: Arum: Gervonta Davis Too Small For 140; Don't Think Josh Taylor Would Have Any Trouble

[Bronx2245]

Lmao…so 4-1 odds ?? Damn - guess the odds against Haney or Linares would b 10-1? That’s freaking funny! U did see Barrios last fight against a smaller guy with 7 pro fights who he struggled with and some thought lost to. There is a reason why Barrios - with all his supposed power, talent and undefeated record is the only the TENTH rated jww on this site! Big challenge and win for Davis! Should b charging $100 for this great historic ppv main event mismatch!!

First of all, his last fight was Ryan carl, who he stopped. That smaller guy with 7 pro fights was given a title shot for a reason! You know he wouldn't be the first Euro to get fast tracked due to their amateur status! Go check the Uzbek's resume before you try to diminish the victory!

From Uzbekistan to California: The Shakhram Giyasov boxing story

Today, Giyasov trains in Indio alongside many of his countrymen, including junior featherweight world champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Israil Madrimov, Batyr Akhmedov, Bektimir Melikuziev, and Bakhodir Jalolov. The Diaz brothers gained the trust of the talented Uzbek boxers and are guiding them towards supremacy in their particular divisions.

All of the names mentioned alongside Giyasov’s were amateur standouts who are gaining or already captured success. It’s not a coincidence that Uzbekistan is producing a rush of gifted boxers. Giyasov explained how the government sponsored and encouraged their pugilistic talents. There’s also something unique about growing up in Uzbekistan, according to Giyasov.

“Growing up there was tough,” explained Giyasov. “It was nothing like here. Things are very different out there. Kids are growing up by themselves a lot. The neighborhoods are very tough and rough. That’s what made me never give up.”

Surrounded by his compatriots in Indio, Giyasov feels at home. Their bond creates a team environment where all benefit from each other’s presence.

“Our team builds, encourages, and the spirit is the most important [thing],” said Giyasov. “A lot of guys are reaching the very top, not with the top skills, but with the most courage and the most spirit.”

https://fansided.com/2020/07/18/uzbe...-boxing-story/

[Bronx2245]

Lol - “coming off an Achilles tear”…or tearing ur Achilles during a fight? Wonder which one is worse and more of a handicap?? Obvious wat u ridiculously think.

Was he not older and coming off a TKO loss, AND an Achilles tear, when he fought Haney?

Gervonta Davis Drops Gamboa Three Times, Stops Him in Twelfth

Davis dropped Gamboa three times in all – once apiece in the second, eighth and 12th rounds – and finished his older opponent with just 1:43 to go in a lightweight title fight Showtime televised.

Referee Jack Reiss declared the Baltimore native the winner when Gamboa hit the canvas for the third time. The time of the stoppage was 1:17 of the final round.

Davis was ahead by huge margins on all three scorecards entering the 12th round. Judges Edward Kanner and Steve Weisfeld each had Davis in front 109-98 through 11 rounds, whereas judge Dave Moretti had Davis in front 109-97 at that point.

The 25-year-old Davis (23-0, 22 KOs), who was listed as a 20-1 favorite, extended his knockout streak to 14 and boxed beyond the ninth round for the first time in his career. The 38-year-old Gamboa (30-3, 18 KOs) had his four-fight winning streak snapped.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta...esults--145521

Haney vs Gamboa results and highlights: Devin Haney wins blowout decision over Yuriorkis Gamboa to retain WBC title

Devin Haney didn’t have the performance he promised tonight against Yuriorkis Gamboa, but he remained unbeaten and retained the WBC lightweight title with a virtual shutout victory over 12 rounds in the DAZN main event.

Haney (25-0, 15 KO) won on scores of 118-109, 120-107, and 120-107, with BLH also scoring the fight 120-107 for the 21-year-old titleholder.

The 38-year-old Gamboa (30-4, 18 KO) was really never in this fight, but he not only didn’t get stopped by Haney, he didn’t wind up adding to his career total of 14 trips to the canvas, either. Haney had barked about wanting to dominate Gamboa more than anyone ever has, about wanting to drop him four times before finishing the Cuban veteran, but Gamboa was never in any serious trouble.

Haney, frankly, was rather dull in this fight, and it’s just a thing that has to be discussed for a guy looking to become a superstar in the sport. He didn’t press the action a whole lot on Gamboa, who was coming in off of a torn Achilles, and despite what the DAZN team said or didn’t say, it was clear the older fighter, who also is under-sized at 135 and always has been, no longer has near the mobility he did even five years ago, let alone in his prime a decade ago.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/11/...ch-online-2020

Only in your twisted mind is Haney on the same level as Tank! Didn't Little Loma stop Linares? What did that older version of Linares do to Haney in those "Championship Rounds?" LMAO!

[GreatMalenko]

First of all, his last fight was Ryan carl, who he stopped. That smaller guy with 7 pro fights was given a title shot for a reason! You know he wouldn't be the first Euro to get fast tracked due to their amateur status! Go check the Uzbek's resume before you try to diminish the victory!

From Uzbekistan to California: The Shakhram Giyasov boxing story

Today, Giyasov trains in Indio alongside many of his countrymen, including junior featherweight world champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Israil Madrimov, Batyr Akhmedov, Bektimir Melikuziev, and Bakhodir Jalolov. The Diaz brothers gained the trust of the talented Uzbek boxers and are guiding them towards supremacy in their particular divisions.

All of the names mentioned alongside Giyasov’s were amateur standouts who are gaining or already captured success. It’s not a coincidence that Uzbekistan is producing a rush of gifted boxers. Giyasov explained how the government sponsored and encouraged their pugilistic talents. There’s also something unique about growing up in Uzbekistan, according to Giyasov.

“Growing up there was tough,” explained Giyasov. “It was nothing like here. Things are very different out there. Kids are growing up by themselves a lot. The neighborhoods are very tough and rough. That’s what made me never give up.”

Surrounded by his compatriots in Indio, Giyasov feels at home. Their bond creates a team environment where all benefit from each other’s presence.

“Our team builds, encourages, and the spirit is the most important [thing],” said Giyasov. “A lot of guys are reaching the very top, not with the top skills, but with the most courage and the most spirit.”

https://fansided.com/2020/07/18/uzbe...-boxing-story/

The best you can come up with is an article mostly about other, better Uzbek fighters? This dude must be even weaker than I thought. Anyone can see that Akhmedov isn't being fast tracked because he's only gotten one fight since a close loss to Barrios and doesn't appear to have anything in the pipeline.

[Bronx2245]

The best you can come up with is an article mostly about other, better Uzbek fighters? This dude must be even weaker than I thought. Anyone can see that Akhmedov isn't being fast tracked because he's only gotten one fight since a close loss to Barrios and doesn't appear to have anything in the pipeline.

Gervonta Davis vs. Mario Barrios - PPV Card Officially Announced

The pay-per-view undercard will feature a battle of two top 154-pound contenders as Erickson “Hammer” Lubin faces former unified champion Jeison Rosario in a WBC Super Welterweight Title Eliminator in the co-main event. Former unified super welterweight champion Julian “J-Rock” Williams returns to the ring for the first time in 18 months to take on Brian Mendoza in a 10-round showdown and hard-hitting Olympian Batyr Akhmedov steps in against former world champion Argenis Mendez in a 12-round WBA Super Lightweight Title Eliminator to kick off the pay-per-view telecast at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta...ounced--157759

Wow, do you guys read the articles, or do you just jump straight to the remarks section? Idiots!

[MONGOOSE66]

That’s a great thing. Tyson was a notorious quitter/drug addict/undisciplined fighter who lost majority of his big fights

How about sticking to the ACTUAL TALENTS IN THE RING. That’s what I was discussing. Tyson was very disciplined at the beginning. His Head and body movement while MOVING FORWARD has gone EXTINCT today.
Tank plods around like a man with crutches.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

First of all, his last fight was Ryan carl, who he stopped. That smaller guy with 7 pro fights was given a title shot for a reason! You know he wouldn't be the first Euro to get fast tracked due to their amateur status! Go check the Uzbek's resume before you try to diminish the victory!

From Uzbekistan to California: The Shakhram Giyasov boxing story

Today, Giyasov trains in Indio alongside many of his countrymen, including junior featherweight world champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Israil Madrimov, Batyr Akhmedov, Bektimir Melikuziev, and Bakhodir Jalolov. The Diaz brothers gained the trust of the talented Uzbek boxers and are guiding them towards supremacy in their particular divisions.

All of the names mentioned alongside Giyasov’s were amateur standouts who are gaining or already captured success. It’s not a coincidence that Uzbekistan is producing a rush of gifted boxers. Giyasov explained how the government sponsored and encouraged their pugilistic talents. There’s also something unique about growing up in Uzbekistan, according to Giyasov.

“Growing up there was tough,” explained Giyasov. “It was nothing like here. Things are very different out there. Kids are growing up by themselves a lot. The neighborhoods are very tough and rough. That’s what made me never give up.”

Surrounded by his compatriots in Indio, Giyasov feels at home. Their bond creates a team environment where all benefit from each other’s presence.

“Our team builds, encourages, and the spirit is the most important [thing],” said Giyasov. “A lot of guys are reaching the very top, not with the top skills, but with the most courage and the most spirit.”

https://fansided.com/2020/07/18/uzbe...-boxing-story/

Lmao - Ryan Carl ? Now that was a stunner!! And dont make the russian guy with 7 fights to b the 2nd coming of Loma!! LOL! Davis had wat - 250’amateur fights and was protected and babied for the longest - and STILL is!! So much for “pedigree”!! So why wasn’t Davis “fast-tracked”? Lets hear ur lame excuse!

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

I don't think Gervonta should be at 140 in my opinion.

It's a big risk for him with his size.

But that's what we want in boxing isn't it? I see a lot of haters on here spouting sh.it but reality is, this is a small guy taking on a man with the height of Errol Spence Jr. (Mario Barrios)

Meaning Barrios could easily be living at 147 and potentially 154 if he wanted to. That's a big, big junior welter right that.

And Gervonta being 5'5"? That's a mountain to climb, specially with a guy who is on the rise and throwing leather with mean intentions.

If Gervonta got by Barrios and especially in emphatic fashion? He'll have no problems with Josh Taylor. He really won't. As long as they don't fight in the UK.

Barrios this…Barrios that…Barrios average fighter with paper title, hence 4-1 odds that say Davis is not risking much by fighting the Tenth ranked jww(and that’s generous) Barrios has poor defense and footwork and doesnt fight tall or long. He will slug with Davis and get easily ko’d just like old slow pillow-fisted LSC. Nobody is picking cherry-pick Barrios to win, just like NOBODY picked Leo to win. Both clearly mismatches to make Davis appear to b a ppv star.

[Bronx2245]

Lmao - Ryan Carl ? Now that was a stunner!! And dont make the russian guy with 7 fights to b the 2nd coming of Loma!! LOL! Davis had wat - 250’amateur fights and was protected and babied for the longest - and STILL is!! So much for “pedigree”!! So why wasn’t Davis “fast-tracked”? Lets hear ur lame excuse!

How many U.S. fighters have you seen fast-tracked? Now how many Russians, Uzbeks, Ukranians, etc.? I know you know this stuff! You're just playing ******! You play your part well! Akhmedov is right there with MJ, Madrimov, and "Bek" the Bully! He lost a close decision to Barrios, and would've won if not for the 2 knockdowns! Why do you think he's already in another elimination fight?

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

How many U.S. fighters have you seen fast-tracked? Now how many Russians, Uzbeks, Ukranians, etc.? I know you know this stuff! You're just playing ******! You play your part well! Akhmedov is right there with MJ, Madrimov, and "Bek" the Bully! He lost a close decision to Barrios, and would've won if not for the 2 knockdowns! Why do you think he's already in another elimination fight?

Lol - do u see something special in him that would validate being “fast-tracked” and a getting vacant title shot?? Lmao!! Plz enlighten us with ur expertise! If u do - ur the ONLY one and must b lonely with that opinion! Dude couldn’t even beat the 10th ranked jww who is a 4-1 underdog against Davis …Akbar or watever his name is isnt even in the top 10 jww! Ur embarrassing urself trying to make him and. Barrios above average fighters…their fight was close bc they r obviously on the SAME LEVEL skill wise. and wtf does nationally got to do with how fast u get a title shot? Over 200 amateur fights for Davis and he is protected and babied along like he is inexperienced! Its that the foreign fighters have the balls to risk the 0 early in their careers!

[The D3vil]

I am not comparing Davis skills or greatness to those fighters. I am mentioning notable names who were “small”. Your post appears to be arguing semantics. I can literally get any boxer of any level and my point still stands: Boxing doesn’t have height classes. It has weight classes.

That is why Tyson, Jones Jr and Corrales were all the same height but competed in completely different weight classes. Because height doesn’t matter in boxing.

As for your last sentence, yes, many fighters should be trying to fight some other fighters but they don’t for one reason or the other. The three most common reasons are contracts, networks and promotional company. Tank Davis doesn’t call the shots, he is not his own boss. Just like Haney and Garcia would more than likely have issues fighting Lomachenko and Lopez.

Luckily we have Eddie Hearn open to making Lopez vs Haney how ever it could be made (ESPN or DAZN). Tank being part of Haymon/Showtime makes him the odd man out just Like Crawford being in TR/ESPN leaves with virtually no real good opponent from 147-154.

Height absolutely does matter in boxing, just like it matters in every other sport.

Now, you can overcome height just like Spud Webb did in basketball or Doug Flutie or somebody did in football, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

Tyson had his most trouble with bigger buys like Lewis, Douglas, Razor Ruddock, and Holyfield.

Tommy Hearns used his height and reach to be a terror at 147

Hell, look at the heavyweight division, Wilder, Joshua, and Fury all use their height and reach to beat guys.

Doesn't mean it can't be overcome, but as the saying goes in boxing "a good big man beats a good little man".