The Time Mayweather ACTUALLY lost a fight but the ref broke the rules/cheated...

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd fans have to be the most loyal,yet also most crazy fans of any fighter.(the rules allow a ref technically to declare every kd a slip,or to farcically allow 1 fighter to do whatever he wants including choking his opponent, doesn't mean we can't say what a horrible pos ref Steele was(the fact remains he blatantly cheated for Floyd & you deflecting won't change that)

I find it hilarious that Floyd fans literally expect everyone to just say,oh we'll the ref was within his rights to blatantly cheat for Floyd so its ok.

If Reynoso or Roach got away with the same bs, we'd never hear the end of it.

I mean, I don’t know how it can be made any more clear really.

The rules state that if a trainer enters the ring, it is the referees discretion to DQ or not. It’s not an automatic DQ in that scenario.

You could argue the ref should have called a DQ, sure, whatever. But he didn’t and he wasn’t obliged to according to the rules.

A ref not calling a DQ there is not cheating. As I said, it’s the refs discretion in that situation and he decided against it.

Simple as that.

[kushking]

I mean, I don’t know how it can be made any more clear really.

The rules state that if a trainer enters the ring, it is the referees discretion to DQ or not. It’s not an automatic DQ in that scenario.

You could argue the ref should have called a DQ, sure, whatever. But he didn’t and he wasn’t obliged to according to the rules.

A ref not calling a DQ there is not cheating. As I said, it’s the refs discretion in that situation and he decided against it.

Simple as that.

So your argument is literally that"oh well that no other ref would ever allow a fighter to be choked out by opponents trainer because the ref is technically allowed to do whatever he wants"? Do you not see how crazy that sounds?(for 1 thing its unfair to Judah because he took damage from getting choked)

Imagine if Pac or Canelos trainers did the same & they warent punished. We'd hear about it in every single fight for eternity (ppl like ShaneMosleySr would use that as proof of how rigged every fight supposedly was for Canelo)

Your argument equates to defending a ref who lets a fighter take 20 seconds to recover from a kd,& then waives it off as a pt deduction for the other fighter(because after all a ref can disregard every rule technically)

just think about this: when Uzi was beating the living sht outta Quitter Dirrell,& barely accidentally hit him after the bell,& Dirrell flopped like a fish pretending to be kod,Uzi was still DQ'd.(thats the fighter accidentally hitting after the bell & opponent literally blatantly faking injury from it,but the ref still did what he was supposed to by the rules. Just as in other cases when a fighter was ruled kod,& later the commission changed it to a DQ anyways because of a technicality arising from the same thing Dirrell did.(fighter faking kod after bell to cheat)

(& Then when Dirrells uncle sucker punched Uzi his uncle was banned for life & issued a warrant,but of course the rules don't apply to Floyds trainers in vegas of all places(& I have zero doubt that if his uncle did that during the fight,Uzi would've won by DQ)

[Roadblock]

It was the foot catching that caused the stumble and over balance, that's what the ref seen, Ive seen it clearly as well on video so you gotta find the right tape that really shows it, the overhead shot shows it but the side view where you can see their feet really shows it.

[IronDanHamza]

So your argument is literally that"oh well that no other ref would ever allow a fighter to be choked out by opponents trainer because the ref is technically allowed to do whatever he wants"? Do you not see how crazy that sounds?(for 1 thing its unfair to Judah because he took damage from getting choked)

Imagine if Pac or Canelos trainers did the same & they warent punished. We'd hear about it in every single fight for eternity (ppl like ShaneMosleySr would use that as proof of how rigged every fight supposedly was for Canelo)

Your argument equates to defending a ref who lets a fighter take 20 seconds to recover from a kd,& then waives it off as a pt deduction for the other fighter(because after all a ref can disregard every rule technically)

just think about this: when Uzi was beating the living sht outta Quitter Dirrell,& barely accidentally hit him after the bell,& Dirrell flopped like a fish pretending to be kod,Uzi was still DQ'd.(thats the fighter accidentally hitting after the bell & opponent literally blatantly faking injury from it,but the ref still did what he was supposed to by the rules. Just as in other cases when a fighter was ruled kod,& later the commission changed it to a DQ anyways because of a technicality arising from the same thing Dirrell did.(fighter faking kod after bell to cheat)

(& Then when Dirrells uncle sucker punched Uzi his uncle was banned for life & issued a warrant,but of course the rules don't apply to Floyds trainers in vegas of all places(& I have zero doubt that if his uncle did that during the fight,Uzi would've won by DQ)

My argument is that the rules for a trainer entering the ring is to the refs discretion to call a DQ. It’s not an automatic DQ. I’m not sure how I can make that easier for you.

The ref is not breaking any rules by not calling a DQ there.

As for the situation, the melee broke up because Yoel Judah confronted Roger to which broke out into a physical altercation which Zab Judah decided to get involved in. After that, it was impossible to see what had happened because there was about 20 people in the ring.

Regardless it’s irrelevant, your argument holds no water because no rules were broke by the ref and according the the rules, if a trainer enters the ring it’s entirely the refs discretion to call a DQ or not.

He didn’t call a DQ, and that’s the end of the story.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I criticized a ref giving long counts.

I wasn’t the only one.

I can criticize a ref for that and not criticize a ref for not DQing Mayweather at the same time.

The ref you’re complaining about followed the rules.

You can't have your cake & eat it too. You can't say"the ref is allowed to do whatever he wants including disregarding long established norms of DQ a fighter whos trainers stormed the ring & choked opponent" then turn around & make threads complaining about a different ref giving a fighter an extra second or 2 to recover)

[MONGOOSE66]

Since the ref is in the spotlight for not stopping the fight yesterday. Just thought I'd post this. This fight Floyd was kd too,but the ref didn't count it. And when Floyds 2 trainers entered the ring & his dad/trainer choked out Judah,Floyd was supposed to be automatically DQ'D but the ref cheated for him.(Steele)

If I'm wrong about this then explain your case

Oh, God, REALLY? Your that bored to include us in your mental masterbations?
Please, next time, go jogging or or do the old man or something.

[TMT_HEAT]

What did Floyd do besides be great at boxing to piss off so many people?

[kushking]

Oh, God, REALLY? Your that bored to include us in your mental masterbations?
Please, next time, go jogging or or do the old man or something.

Just stfu,you think you're so edgy & cool with your smart ass comments always pssing & moaning about your masturbating to Floyd

[Roadblock]

What did Floyd do besides be great at boxing to piss off so many people?

He told them he was great and then beat all their heroes, nowadays he just rubs their noses in it.

[MONGOOSE66]

Just stfu,you think you're so edgy & cool with your smart ass comments always pssing & moaning about your masturbating to Floyd

90% of the shi it on here ISNT about boxing. It’s about the writer trying to INSTALL HIMSELF into boxing. Which is all about ego & insecurities.
Im not interested in hearing about how great the WRITER is. I’m very interested in the intricacies of the sweet science.