The Time Mayweather ACTUALLY lost a fight but the ref broke the rules/cheated...

[IronDanHamza]

As I wrote above,do you honestly think any other ref(or same ref) would ever NOT DQ any other fighter in same circumstances?(I mean come on,his trainer literally choked the opposing fighter ffs)

Just because a ref has ultimate authority in the ring does not equate to him being infallible & his favoritism for the cashcow being legitimate.(theres been several cases of refs being overruled both during & after the fight by the commission)

I mean that same ref didn't count the kd when Floyds glove hit the canvas(I let that 1 pass),but in boxing terms he allowed Floyds dad to get away with murder.

It doesn’t matter what we speculate would have happened in another scenario. That’s nothing more than speculation,

The rules are the rules, in that scenario is is entirely the refs discretion to DQ a fighter, and the Ref decided against it.

There’s no more to say on it.

[Nash out]

You said the ref cheated and ignored the rules.

The rules state that it’s the referee’s discretion. So he actually followed the rules.

He shouldn't be criticized. He did a great job.

That was an incredibly competitive fight and dead even until the much later rounds.

He would have hurt everyone by stopping it. He would have robbed Judah at a chance to have his greatest performance. He would have taken Mayweather’s 0. And he would have robbed the viewing public of a great fight.

So I don’t know why we complain about this one.

I watched Jose Luis Castillo win 8 or 9 rounds against Mayweather and lose. That one still bugs me.

Castillo did not win 8 or 9 rounds in the first fight. He won some rounds convincingly, but he only won 3,4 or at absolute most 5 rounds against TBE. I had it 1116-111 to TBE.

[blowblow]

paid referee of course..

[ShaneMosleySr]

I’m allowed to criticize boxing referees even if I disagree with you on something.

Forgot to add,what I find especially amusing is you made a thread about Bayliss "cheating for Ramirez vs Taylor."

According to your own logic that thread & all your other drama queen threads you make complaining about refs are now automatically irrelevant, Because as you yourself say"the rules give the ref authority to do whatever he wants"

I'm going to post your response Everytime you complain about a ref from here on out (btw Bayliss v Taylor isn't even in the same universe as Steele allowing 2 trainers to storm the ring & choke out opposing fighter. Thats like saying a judge giving a felon community service for murder is ok,then getting outraged when a different judge goes easy on someone because they got brutally beaten by the owners of a house they were robbing.

[ShaneMosleySr]

In the first fight?

Mayweather’s own promoter thought he had lost.

Castillo did not win 8 or 9 rounds in the first fight. He won some rounds convincingly, but he only won 3,4 or at absolute most 5 rounds against TBE. I had it 1116-111 to TBE.

[Nash out]

In the first fight?

Mayweather’s own promoter thought he had lost.

In a close-ish fight, there is always going to be some people who think the wrong guy won, but my scorecard of 116-111 was a world class scorecard that needs to be respected. TBE won more rounds, no doubt.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Why is it a world class scorecard that needs to be respected?

In a close-ish fight, there is always going to be some people who think the wrong guy won, but my scorecard of 116-111 was a world class scorecard that needs to be respected. TBE won more rounds, no doubt.

[Nash out]

Why is it a world class scorecard that needs to be respected?

That was a joke, but he definitely won.

[kushking]

It doesn’t matter what we speculate would have happened in another scenario. That’s nothing more than speculation,

The rules are the rules, in that scenario is is entirely the refs discretion to DQ a fighter, and the Ref decided against it.

There’s no more to say on it.

Floyd fans have to be the most loyal,yet also most bias fans of any fighter.(the rules allow a ref technically to declare every kd a slip,or to farcically allow 1 fighter to do whatever he wants including choking his opponent, doesn't mean we can't say what a horrible pos ref Steele was(the fact remains he blatantly cheated for Floyd & you deflecting won't change that)

I find it hilarious that Floyd fans literally expect everyone to just say,oh we'll the ref was within his rights to blatantly cheat for Floyd so its ok.

If Reynoso or Roach got away with the same bs, we'd never hear the end of it.

[kushking]

I’m allowed to criticize boxing referees even if I disagree with you on something.

You can't have your cake & eat it too. You can't say"the ref is allowed to do whatever he wants including disregarding long established norms of DQ a fighter whos trainers stormed the ring & choked opponent" then turn around & make threads complaining about a different ref giving a fighter an extra second or 2 to recover)