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  • #61
    Round 12 vs Thurman shows Pac loves boxing more than most humans.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post

      Spence, is mechanical, walks in straight lines with no head movement.
      First of all, you forgot that Manny can't handle sharpshooters that set traps - which Spence is arguably the best in the business at.

      Case-in-point:

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      Manny doesn't like when guys time him and throw off his rhythm - which Spence is arguably one of the best in the business at.

      Case-in-point:

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      Manny definitely doesn't like guys that walk him down with a straight right hand, which he's vulnerable to as a southpaw - a tactic Spence uses the moment he sees your guard drop. Case-in-point:

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      Do you know why this matters more for Spence than for other guys?

      It's because Spence is precise and doesn't need to excessively move. He moves subtle. He's like a serpent with his striking at close range and as Porter even said, he adjusts to you but is willing to take shots (that aren't as full force because he's throwing back at you with full force).

      Which results in beautiful attacks like this - which I don't believe Manny would handle anywhere near as well because Manny can't fight trench like this (Keef and Horn already showcased that, Manny was getting beat down on the ropes).







      I'm not saying it's blowout for Spence. You're saying the only way Spence wins is by KO, and I'm telling you right now, Spence will decision this man. The judges are no longer giving Manny free rides to a decision because he's not throwing 1,000 punches anymore; he can't. Without that level of activity, he's not getting a default decision and he knows that.

      Or did you forget that he BARELY got out of the fight with a shell of Keef Thurman?
      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 06-14-2021, 08:39 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by revelated View Post

        First of all, you forgot that Manny can't handle sharpshooters that set traps - which Spence is arguably the best in the business at.

        Case-in-point:




        Manny doesn't like when guys time him and throw off his rhythm - which Spence is arguably one of the best in the business at.

        Case-in-point:




        I'm not saying it's blowout for Spence. You're saying the only way Spence wins is by KO, and I'm telling you right now, Spence will decision this man. The judges are no longer giving Manny free rides to a decision because he's not throwing 1,000 punches anymore; he can't. Without that level of activity, he's not getting a default decision and he knows that.

        Or did you forget that he BARELY got out of the fight with a shell of Keef Thurman?
        Sharp shooter? Counter puncher?

        Can you tell me who's pulling the trigger here?

        Manny's Problem with sharp shooters? Really?

        This was by the way with a busted right shoulder hehe


        Looks like you need some glasses bud. I think Manny is the sharp shooter.



























        Last edited by Spoon23; 06-14-2021, 08:59 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post

          Sharp shooter? Counter puncher?

          Can you tell me who's pulling the trigger here?

          [B]Manny Problem with sharp shooters? Really?
          Too bad you completely ignored the most important part of what I said:

          Spence is arguably the best in the business at
          Aka, not Floyd.

          So if Floyd was able to land sharp shots like that yet take punishment - and that was a faded Floyd - what the hell do you think a PRIME Errol Spence who is LARGER than Floyd is going to do?

          If you honestly think this is 50/50 because you're a Manny fan...you're going to be sadly embarrassed and leave the forum again, just like when Floyd's hand was raised. Spence is about to show you what you should already know - he's an elite fighter, arguably now better than Floyd was at the same age.


          Spence decisions Manny Pacquiao with at least 8 rounds in the books. Bank on it

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          • #65
            I think it's the sharp shooter having a hard time finding the mark Revelated.





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            • #66
              Originally posted by revelated View Post

              Too bad you completely ignored the most important part of what I said:



              Aka, not Floyd.

              So if Floyd was able to land sharp shots like that yet take punishment - and that was a faded Floyd - what the hell do you think a PRIME Errol Spence who is LARGER than Floyd is going to do?

              If you honestly think this is 50/50 because you're a Manny fan...you're going to be sadly embarrassed and leave the forum again, just like when Floyd's hand was raised. Spence is about to show you what you should already know - he's an elite fighter, arguably now better than Floyd was at the same age.


              Spence decisions Manny Pacquiao with at least 8 rounds in the books. Bank on it
              Ignored? You just make up stories to fit your narrative..

              Is this not sharp enough for you..

              You say Pac can't dance with a sharp shooter. That's Manny with a busted right shoulder embarrassing your hero lmao



              Last edited by Spoon23; 06-14-2021, 08:57 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post

                {some ranting}
                You're transparent, bro.

                I gave you an example from Bradley and Floyd.

                You then leaped back into multi-post rant mode about a fight Manny lost. Just like in 2015.

                Meanwhile, I even gave you a video showing you how much larger Spence is and how he fights in the pocket - something Manny struggles to do - and you STILL remain blind.

                Serious question: how many times do you need to see Manny get embarrassed before you will finally have a mature conversation?

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                • #68
                  Spence getting wobbled, then UD win by PAC.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by revelated View Post

                    If you honestly think this is 50/50 because you're a Manny fan...you're going to be sadly embarrassed and leave the forum again, just like when Floyd's hand was raised. Spence is about to show you what you should already know - he's an elite fighter, arguably now better than Floyd was at the same age.


                    Spence decisions Manny Pacquiao with at least 8 rounds in the books. Bank on it
                    Noted.

                    I never said this will be an easy fight for Manny that's why it's 50/50. But definitely this will not be lopsided.

                    Quote me on this. Pac wins either by UD or TKO (not KO) take note, If Pac loses. It will be in a close fight, but Spence can get a KO just as Pac can also get lucky, but that doesn't mean it will be lopsided. This will be a real fight. Pac is still dynamic, while Spence to people who noticed is mechanical. Pac loves robotic opponents. Easy to predict.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post

                      You're transparent, bro.

                      I gave you an example from Bradley and Floyd.

                      You then leaped back into multi-post rant mode about a fight Manny lost. Just like in 2015.

                      Meanwhile, I even gave you a video showing you how much larger Spence is and how he fights in the pocket - something Manny struggles to do - and you STILL remain blind.

                      Serious question: how many times do you need to see Manny get embarrassed before you will finally have a mature conversation?
                      Mature, you post Bradley. That dude lost 3 times with Manny. And you say Pac had a hard time?

                      You post a Floyd fight with Manny showing Floyd disrupting Pac's shots. I get that.. but that's not what happened. Manny with a busted shoulder had to deal with a clincher that night. It's not that sharp shooting jabs Floyd threw that gave Pac a hard time. It's Floyd not allowing a real fight to happen by profusely clinching Pac all night which is foul in the rules of boxing. (QUEENS BERRY RULES, HOLDING INTENTIONALLY IS FOUL) like what Paul Logan did to him.

                      So if that is your angle. Just tell Spence to Clinch all night against Pac and hope the judges are paid by Al Haymon to give him the rounds for that lame excuse for boxing..

                      So again.. Use another analysis..

                      Your theory doesn't work.. Pac was able to still connect with ease even with a busted shoulder over a fighter that you call a sharp shooter.

                      So what is Pac's weakness? Foul him, wrestle him.. Hope the judges don't deduct points for foul tactics not in accordance to the Queensberry Rules and maybe Spence will have a chance. Or back to the drawing board for you, if you want a real fight strategy that does not include fouling go back to the drawing board.

                      Spence has no Head movement, walks in straight lines.. Not a backfoot fighter. Spence will have a hard time with even an old man Pac. Spence is the kind of fighter Pac's love dancing with. You know why? Pac still has the speed in both his hands and feet. Only thing that will change that tide if Pac grows old overnight in the ring. That happens to these old folks.. We'll see on fight night. That's why I said. It's a must watch PPV.


                      I'll end with a message. Speed Kills. Pac still has that in spades. Even a prime Spence is still slower than an aging Pacquiao.
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 06-14-2021, 09:31 AM.

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