Gennady Golovkin-the last great champion

[just the facts]

lol.......I just call it like I see it. He's had a great career, and deserves more props for that

Let's get this straight, you don't "call it like you see it". You call it like you perceive it and sometimes that conflicts with reality.

[Boxing-1013]

Let's get this straight, you don't "call it like you see it". You call it like you perceive it and sometimes that conflicts with reality.

I disagree

[PeepeePoopooMan]

Urine and feces boy, when a ggg/Ward fight was a real possibility (not when Ward was injured, not when Ward was having legal problems), team ggg insisted that the fight could only happen at 164. They knew Ward would be hard pressed to make 168 and 164 would be out of the question. This was after approving 168 for both Froch and Chavez Jr. They could act like they were interested in fighting Ward but wouldn't actually have to fight him. After the fight fell apart, Ward moved up a weight class to fight the perceived killer and #1 lt heavy Kovalev and ggg drug the #3 or #4 welterweight up not one but two weight classes up for a fight. So who was looking for tough fights and who wasnt?

What they said: anyone from 154-168 can get it
What they meant: anyone from 154-168 can get it, as long as HBO approves, as long as we get the lions share of the money and as long as your name isn't Andre Ward or Erislandy Lara.

Doesn't 164 fall between 154-168? Idk my math might be off. who tf is ward to call the shots? Ward was irrelevant as fvkc. He was inactive and couldn't sell out his hometown while golovkin was selling out in L.a and m.s.g. Ward was just saying Golovkins name to stay relevant. Accept it loser.

[just the facts]

OK - do you agree that the 'offer' Ward sent was nothing more than a ploy to get publicity? As GGG was set to fight Lemieux, with Cotto/Canelo due to be next. He knew that GGG had better options at that time.

Truthfully, I don't think either team/guy was that eager for that fight. It was basically all risk and little reward for each.

But ggg didn't fight them next, he fought Brook (you know, the welterweight).

I will say this, in hindsight, ggg refusing the Ward fight was brilliant. He made millions fighting Canelo that he wouldn't have made with a Ward loss on his resume.

[just the facts]

I disagree

Which is your right but that doesn't make it accurate.

[Boxing-1013]

But ggg didn't fight them next, he fought Brook (you know, the welterweight).

I will say this, in hindsight, ggg refusing the Ward fight was brilliant. He made millions fighting Canelo that he wouldn't have made with a Ward loss on his resume.

He fought Brook because Eubank pulled out. And was due to fight Eubank because Canelo was stalling.

But yes the play they made to coax Canelo up to 160 worked out perfectly for them. Looking back it was definitely the best move.

[Boxing-1013]

Which is your right but that doesn't make it accurate.

Well I guess that is what they call, agreeing to disagree

[just the facts]

Doesn't 164 fall between 154-168? Idk my math might be off. who tf is ward to call the shots? Ward was irrelevant as fvkc. He was inactive and couldn't sell out his hometown while golovkin was selling out in L.a and m.s.g. Ward was just saying Golovkins name to stay relevant. Accept it loser.

More ignorance from the king of that bu!!shyte. Team ggg refused the Ward fight. It is what it is.......

[just the facts]

Well I guess that is what they call, agreeing to disagree

Copy, in your defense, the only fighter I've seen you have a blind spot for is ggg. That a lot better than most of the jerk offs here.

[Boxing-1013]

Copy, in your defense, the only fighter I've seen you have a blind spot for is ggg. That a lot better than most of the jerk offs here.

Thanks. I just find it really easy to score rounds for him - his jab and workrate are often times more than enough to give him a clear round. I don't like how 'cautious' he has been late in his career however. And I would have liked to have seen him move up to 168 at some point.