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    By Cliff Rold - Showtime's well reviewed "The Kings" has been a solid dose of nostalgia looking back on a nine-fight series which, taken as a whole, surely stands the test of time. One thing documentaries or written accounts of history can never capture is the passage of real time.
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  • #2
    Can't hate on it.

    The reason the 90s were what they were was because there were at least 5-6 very competitive heavyweights on the landscape...it was only until after, say, 1999 that Lewis kinda emerged as the defacto "king". Guys like Bowe, Morrison, ****ing Foreman, Vitali, Mercer and Tua were all great fighters and looked (and look) far better than many of the contenders today...most of whom just aren't fighting decent opposition frequently enough to be considered competitive.

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    • #3
      Not sure about everyone else, but I am over it and happy so long as Joshua/Usyk happens. Both are good enough fights to wash away the disappointment of the unification not happening.

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      • #4
        With the fights lined up, if we were to get Joshua v Fury in the next 2 years the era probably surpasses the 90s. We've had Joshua/Ruiz, Wilder/Fury, now Joshua/Usyk. All were big fights and all in just a couple of years. Assuming they both win, Joshua/Fury meeting would top out the era nicely.

        Supporting cast is always supporting cast. You get plenty of those fights with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Pulev, Parker, maybe even Wallin. And there'll be more to come.

        The 90s was massively overrated in terms of the top guys fighting each other. Bowe and Holyfield was it. Every other huge fight was well past prime.

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        • #5
          Maybe Fury-Joshua will go the way of Lewis-Bowe, or even Joshua-Wilder....everyone probably forgets, but until Andy Ruiz, Joshua-Wilder was the next big one...maybe it will happen in seven years, the way Floyd and Manny went, or Holyfield-Tyson...

          These are two pretty damn good replacements though...really looking forward to both.

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          • #6
            W Klitschko faced all the top ranked guys that came to him. Please name one that he ducked...no one comes to my mind. Today there are a lot of high ranked guys that risk of not having a single opportunity for a major title. The fact itself that Fury and AJ can't fight is a big difference since that age. And then there are the likes of Joyce Yoka, Ajagba, Hrgovic, even Hunter. Will their time ever come?

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            • #7
              The fight that should have happened was Wladimir Klitschko vs Wilder, Widler won he became the A side he thinks he is.. maybe the American public take to him, if he lost he's the B side who comes over to fight Joshua, that fight was there ... it was the fight that was teh rite of passage for AJ and Fury

              Mike Tyson era etc were obviously better for the fans .. not sure about the boxers though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post
                Can't hate on it.

                The reason the 90s were what they were was because there were at least 5-6 very competitive heavyweights on the landscape...it was only until after, say, 1999 that Lewis kinda emerged as the defacto "king". Guys like Bowe, Morrison, ****ing Foreman, Vitali, Mercer and Tua were all great fighters and looked (and look) far better than many of the contenders today...most of whom just aren't fighting decent opposition frequently enough to be considered competitive.
                Yeah, a division doesn’t have to be ultimately elite to be a great divsion it just needs to have the numbers for it to be a competitive division. Although I’m not saying those 90's days were not elite, they were elite and competitive. What an era.

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                • #9
                  The 90s….Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis, Foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Moorer, Morrison, Tua, Bruno, even lesser guys like Maskaev, Rahman, Stewart, Botha, Schulz, the 90s era was a far better era than we have now. The 90s literally was the second best era of heavyweight boxing in history. So good that many boxing fans, not even mentioning the general sports fan, cannot remember what was happening at welterweight, lightweight, light heavyweight, etc during that era because we had such great matchups and fights with guys who were so talented because they had been boxing since their single number years. This era is more entertaining than the talentless klitschko era but nowhere near the 90s

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                  • #10
                    Aside from the four guys mentioned, but particularly Fury and Joshua, it's a very poor heavyweight division. The worst era was the Klitschko's, although Vitali was quite underrated.

                    There was a period there when Larry Holmes was champion when the contenders weren't top notch, but he was an excellent boxer with a great jab and skill.

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