Comments Thread For: Wilder Continues To Claim Fury's Gloves Were Tampered With, Says Deas Was Just Inexperienced

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder's bumbling doesn't represent America. That's why a lot of us criticize him and expect a higher standard for how he should handle his loss with less excuses.

Look Sid-Knee, I know that UK fighters have gotten their butts kicked this year constantly (except for Josh Taylor.) But don't take your frustrations out on me. Learn to deal with reality in a healthier manner.

You were one of the main extremists in supporting Wilder. You claimed that AJ was the one ducking. You defended Wilder ducking Whyte and claimed Whyte was "****e". But you're going back on that now? As i say, you throw them under the bus and cling on to someone else where it starts all over again. But this time, you've become Mexican for some reason. Haha.

[Sid-Knee]

Hes selling a fight. The only boxer that I look up to is Ali... and not because of his fighting skills. IMO it was incredibly brave and simple to refuse to shoot at others in a foreign land defying the government. The rest of these guys? I don't really think much about their moral compass.

Wilder isn't selling any fights, nor are his fans. They actually believe this twisted extremism. Slandering innocent people isn't good. Brushing it off isn't either.

[billeau2]

It was the good side Wilder was giving us before? No, Deontay, you gave us the real you, and have done for years now. You don't have a good side. It's just a case of having no self-awareness and being pathologically deluded to it all. Like most of you over there with your clear sickness.

When he thrashed Charlie Z that was really fun to watch Did you see that? Does Wilder represent American extremism? You could make a case for it I s'pose. I just can't take him that seriously... when he is gearing up "To this day" and frowns, and that costume... I tend to hope he is deliberately doing these things to create a buzz.

I guess like many Muricans I worry more about the government taking our civil liberties... About Government deciding that in San Francisco where I am living, its ok for people to attack, steal and not ok for me to retaliate. And while I don't have much in common with those who want to arm to the teeth I cannot help but noticing in northern Nevada, where I also have a place, you can put a gun on your dashboard and nobody cares... and nobody breaks into cars and attacks people. Wilder and his theatrics don't seem to speak to these issues... Wilder may talk of horrid things in the ring, but Government getting bigger every generation is increasing in the communities where my two sons will have to raise their families one day. To me that is horrid. Then again I grew up in an area with guys like Wilder, and Tyson. They were both: the people that I might have to fight with to get home from school, and the friends that had my back.

[billeau2]

Wilder isn't selling any fights, nor are his fans. They actually believe this twisted extremism. Slandering innocent people isn't good. Brushing it off isn't either.

Oh come on Sid... All this talk of homicide in the ring... etc . He isn't selling the fight to you, or I, that much is true... But to the many fans who watch the Paul brothers? You said it yourself: the mentality of the average person in this country? I don't know about Europe... Do you know one of the most popular forms of theatre for White working class Americans from the 1950's and on? Wrassling!

[Toffee]

Wilder's bumbling doesn't represent America. That's why a lot of us criticize him and expect a higher standard for how he should handle his loss with less excuses.

Look Sid-Knee, I know that UK fighters have gotten their butts kicked this year constantly (except for Josh Taylor.) But don't take your frustrations out on me. Learn to deal with reality in a healthier manner.

If he didn't represent Americans, then he wouldn't do it. And he certainly wouldn't get away with it. Maybe it's not you, but it's plenty of people in the US who enable this behaviour.

Like it or not, if a UK fighter made excuses like this and behaved this then they'd be laughed out of town by the fans. Promoters and TV networks would abandon them.

Character is one part of it, but these fighters also play to their audience. That's one of the big reasons why the Joshua and Wilder responses were so different.

[ShoulderRoll]

You were one of the main extremists in supporting Wilder. You claimed that AJ was the one ducking. You defended Wilder ducking Whyte and claimed Whyte was "****e". But you're going back on that now? As i say, you throw them under the bus and cling on to someone else where it starts all over again. But this time, you've become Mexican for some reason. Haha.

Joshua said to give him $50 million and he'd fight Wilder tomorrow. Wilder's side offered that to him and Joshua ducked. It is what it is.

Eddie Hearn wanted to throw Dillian Shyte in Wilder's path instead. I saw no reason that anyone should have to play Fast Eddie's games.

I'll still support Wilder in the Fury fight because I tend to root for American boxers. Nothing wrong with that. It doesn't stop me from showing respect to excellent foreign boxers when they earn it, such as the Mexican Canelo and Josh Taylor.

[ShoulderRoll]

If he didn't represent Americans, then he wouldn't do it. And he certainly wouldn't get away with it. Maybe it's not you, but it's plenty of people in the US who enable this behaviour.

Like it or not, if a UK fighter made excuses like this and behaved this then they'd be laughed out of town by the fans. Promoters and TV networks would abandon them.

Character is one part of it, but these fighters also play to their audience. That's one of the big reasons why the Joshua and Wilder responses were so different.

Wilder's getting laughed at by plenty of fans including me.

Join in if you like. He deserves it.

[Toffee]

Wilder's getting laughed at by plenty of fans including me.

Join in if you like. He deserves it.

I agree. And I am. As are plenty of people in the US and the entirety of the UK.

But the fact he's still got support tells you why he's responding this way. People go for it.

[Sid-Knee]

When he thrashed Charlie Z that was really fun to watch Did you see that? Does Wilder represent American extremism? You could make a case for it I s'pose. I just can't take him that seriously... when he is gearing up "To this day" and frowns, and that costume... I tend to hope he is deliberately doing these things to create a buzz.

I guess like many Muricans I worry more about the government taking our civil liberties... About Government deciding that in San Francisco where I am living, its ok for people to attack, steal and not ok for me to retaliate. And while I don't have much in common with those who want to arm to the teeth I cannot help but noticing in northern Nevada, where I also have a place, you can put a gun on your dashboard and nobody cares... and nobody breaks into cars and attacks people. Wilder and his theatrics don't seem to speak to these issues... Wilder may talk of horrid things in the ring, but Government getting bigger every generation is increasing in the communities where my two sons will have to raise their families one day. To me that is horrid. Then again I grew up in an area with guys like Wilder, and Tyson. They were both: the people that I might have to fight with to get home from school, and the friends that had my back.

It's funny and ironic you mention Charlie Z. Wilder has become much worse than even that lunatic. Charlie has actual mental health problems though. What do you think is the problem with Wilder and those like him?

[Sid-Knee]

Oh come on Sid... All this talk of homicide in the ring... etc . He isn't selling the fight to you, or I, that much is true... But to the many fans who watch the Paul brothers? You said it yourself: the mentality of the average person in this country? I don't know about Europe... Do you know one of the most popular forms of theatre for White working class Americans from the 1950's and on? Wrassling!

I'm not talking just about the "I want to kill Fury" nonsense. I'm talking about all the lies, slander and delusions over the past 6-7 years. And it isn't like wrestling where he thinks this is a game. They mean everything they say. Stop trying to justify him and the loonies that support such a freak show. If this were done by a British fighter, you'd be singing from a completely different song sheet.