Comments Thread For: Wilder: John Fury Trying To Get His Son To Duck, I'm Very Dangerous Right Now

[1hourRun]

Tyson Fury is landing his biggest punches on Wilder 'And even though he has bad balance, and was 40 pounds lighter? Deontay Wilder was still standing.

Fury won the fight, but lets not play this off as a knock out.

Wilder was surviving, and for all we know? Could of at some pointed landed his power etc

This third fight is still not a easy fight for Tyson Fury.

Note: I have just read all of your post, and yes? I agree. I have been saying it for sometime. Deep down Fury knows he did not knock out or beat down Wilder into submission. In Fury's own culture, those bare-knuckle fighters know what a knock-out is or a forfeit. They know full well Wilder was being beaten, but he was showing a instinct and attitude to survive that would be revered in their culture. Wilder is not the most technically gifted, but his attitude when in battle is elite.

Wilder has a simple game plan, survive and land his power at some point 'He drops rounds all the time, big deal'. Fury was winning rounds, but he had not yet deterred Wilder from this game plan etc

The reason why some people in Fury's camp are still slightly weary of Wilder, are because they know what type of fighter he is 'Forget boxing, they know Wilder will not stop attempting to bring violence for as long as he is in the fight'.

It is this kind of situation below. Wilder was losing every round, but still he was no matter what people say 'Fighting back'.

Your analogy is spot-on. Tyson Fury is like Apollo Creed, Deontay is his Ivan Drago '' I must brake you. '' is the mode. Gypsy-John should be there to throw in the towel, but he can not come to America, because he is a no good criminal.

[Monty Fisto]

Nah
You are wrong buddy
There's @ least 2 or 3 difference videos on YouTube with John Fury speaking on this 3rd fight
John wanted his son to vacate the belt Or for Wilder to take a step aside fee soo Fury AJ could still go foward

No, he's right. Forget the forthcoming fight, that is not what we are discussing here.

Wilder claims they tried to duck the SECOND fight as well as this fight. That is what Sid is referring to.

[Monty Fisto]

I'm sure you're right but Wilder did knock the invincible gypsy unconscious for 5 seconds and the big ***** needed a borderline long count to avoid being ko'd...just saying

Well, his eyes are open on the count of 3 or 4, the ref's count was just fine and since Wilder wasn't in a neutral corner for any of it, he should have had even longer.

[PunchyPotorff]

Geez wilder... it's f ing JUNE, man. Last thing we need is MORE hot air.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Well, his eyes are open on the count of 3 or 4, the ref's count was just fine and since Wilder wasn't in a neutral corner for any of it, he should have had even longer.

no that is wrong. There is a person outside the ring who begins the count whether or not the other fighter is in the neutral corner. The ref takes up the count once he returns to the action, however the persons count is still official, and if they were to reach 10 before the ref had a chance to return, the fight would still be over by knock out. The 10 count begins once the fighter is down, not when the other fighter reaches the neutral corner.

[billeau2]

Calls a good man like Mark Breland "a disloyal trainer."

Says he was drowsy.

These are the excuses that turn people against Wilder.

This is true. On the other hand some people have no perspective. The excuses are silly and Breland is a good man.

[Monty Fisto]

no that is wrong. There is a person outside the ring who begins the count whether or not the other fighter is in the neutral corner. The ref takes up the count once he returns to the action, however the persons count is still official, and if they were to reach 10 before the ref had a chance to return, the fight would still be over by knock out. The 10 count begins once the fighter is down, not when the other fighter reaches the neutral corner.

Yes, there is a timekeeper. But you do acknowledge there is a rule when a boxer is knocked down requiring the opponent to go to the farthest neutral corner and if he does not do so, the ref should stop the count and direct him to the corner.

Wilder did not go to the farthest neutral corner. Therefore Fury should have had even longer, because the ref should have stopped counting and directed Wilder to where he needed to be.

[Sid-Knee]

Nah
You are wrong buddy
There's @ least 2 or 3 difference videos on YouTube with John Fury speaking on this 3rd fight
John wanted his son to vacate the belt Or for Wilder to take a step aside fee soo Fury AJ could still go foward

Wilder said John Fury didn't want Tyson to fight him in the second fight. It wasn't, it was the first fight due to the shape Fury was in.

I know John doesn't like this 3rd fight with Wilder.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Yes, there is a timekeeper. But you do acknowledge there is a rule when a boxer is knocked down requiring the opponent to go to the farthest neutral corner and if he does not do so, the ref should stop the count and direct him to the corner.

Wilder did not go to the farthest neutral corner. Therefore Fury should have had even longer, because the ref should have stopped counting and directed Wilder to where he needed to be.

You need to watch the 12th round again. Wilder walked to the neutral corner immediately with out being instructed by the ref. He began dancing. The ref has his back to Wilder so it's not clear when Wilder begins pacing but, he is seen pacing the far corner after Fury was already off the canvas. Either way no ref would stop the count in this situation because even when Wilder exited the neutral corner he was still across the ring. So your view of how the fight ended is not accurate to what actually occurred.

[Monty Fisto]

You need to watch the 12th round again. Wilder walked to the neutral corner immediately with out being instructed by the ref. He began dancing. The ref has his back to Wilder so it's not clear when Wilder begins pacing but, he is seen pacing the far corner after Fury was already off the canvas. Either way no ref would stop the count in this situation because even when Wilder exited the neutral corner he was still across the ring. So your view of how the fight ended is not accurate to what actually occurred.

No, I've watched it many, many times. He immediately heads to his own corner, then can be seen reversing and dancing toward a neutral corner. Camera cuts away for a few seconds. When it comes back to him, he is walking away from Fury's corner toward a neutral corner. We know, therefore, he cannot have been in the neutral corner. So my point stands.