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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #31
    Originally posted by DeryckAtlanta

    Shakur Stevenson was 126lb WBO champ and moved up to become Herrings mandatory. Shakur Stevenson agreed to step aside for Herrings voluntary defense against Frampton, so naturally that is the fight to be made next. No matter how you slice it, they filed to be mandatory. I won't argue about Crawford not being threatened, but I also haven't seen any of the #1 ranked WBO welters say that they put in to be elevated to mandatory. Maybe we will see it in the upcoming months now that there is less politics involved in the current WBO challenger.
    WBO's president is notorious for CONSTANTLY tossing veiled threats regardless of who's the mandatory and whether they asked for the fight, for every one of their champions BUT Crawford.

    Usyk went silent when Fury/Joshua allegedly started negotiations, but the day after: "Joshua has a mandatory, ball's in your court Eddie". Threat, Usyk wasn't pushing it.

    Shakur has not voiced any push to fight Herring. Yet IMMEDIATELY after Herring goes through war with Frampton and is trying to celebrate, WBO president tosses a threat.

    Hell, they even threatened Floyd just before he fought Berto. That was over belt fees, but still, they threatened TBE! But not Crawford.

    It's BS.


    EDIT: and they just threatened Ioka. They're shielding Crawford. Period.
    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 06-02-2021, 11:18 AM.

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    • El Más Loco
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      #32
      By using the same logic, Kovalev and GGG should never be considered ATG's or for the HOF.

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      • LeOoze
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        #33
        Originally posted by El Más Loco
        By using the same logic, Kovalev and GGG should never be considered ATG's or for the HOF.
        OP is a ****** racist craccer and should be banned

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        • whollisboxing
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          #34
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

          I should give him a credit for fighting welterweights? he is a huge welterweight, lol.
          And? Is there a new rule that says you have to move up just because some people think you’re too big for your weight class? Even though you have never missed weight?

          Now if you’re arguing for rehydration clauses or not gaining more than 10 lbs the next day then that’s a different conversation

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #35
            Originally posted by El Más Loco
            By using the same logic, Kovalev and GGG should never be considered ATG's or for the HOF.
            Well, they are not.

            Just world class fighters.

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            • JakeTheBoxer
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              #36
              Pacquiao jumped up 8 divisions or something. Spence not even one lol lol lol.

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                #37
                [QUOTE=Keysandboxing;n30931419]

                Dude is clearly a Spence hater. /QUOTE]

                No. You can search my old posts. I actually think he is much better than Crawford.

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                • DeryckAtlanta
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by revelated

                  WBO's president is notorious for CONSTANTLY tossing veiled threats regardless of who's the mandatory and whether they asked for the fight, for every one of their champions BUT Crawford.

                  Usyk went silent when Fury/Joshua allegedly started negotiations, but the day after: "Joshua has a mandatory, ball's in your court Eddie". Threat, Usyk wasn't pushing it.

                  Shakur has not voiced any push to fight Herring. Yet IMMEDIATELY after Herring goes through war with Frampton and is trying to celebrate, WBO president tosses a threat.

                  Hell, they even threatened Floyd just before he fought Berto. That was over belt fees, but still, they threatened TBE! But not Crawford.

                  It's BS.


                  EDIT: and they just threatened Ioka. They're shielding Crawford. Period.
                  Usyk agreed to step aside, so of course when they found out the ruling he spoke. Yes Usyk was pushing it, he said that after Joshua faces Pulev that he must fight him or vacate. He then agreed to step aside.

                  Shakur was talking about the fight months before Herring fought Frampton, where he said his next fight is going to be with the winner or for a vacant if Herring vacates to move up (he assumed Herring would win). There are exchanges with Frampton and Shakur on twitter asking if he is willing to travel after he "wins".

                  Any mandatory for Floyd is going to rightfully activate it, you can't pass up that money.

                  You see the difference in your examples, Crawford had Danny G as #1 in the division and he turned down the money and passed on the mandatory. Crawford then beat Mean Machine as his mandatory. Shawn Porter became his mandatory and then stated live on his podcast that he was advised not to activate the mandatory. Yes I am a Crawford fan, but these are just facts and I would be willing to accept your "truth" if any of these guys said they petitioned for mandatory and they didn't get the fight.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #39
                    He's got to fight Crawford, the other current best fighter in his division. I don't care if he ever moves up in weight, means very little imo.

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